Make Your Goals Bigger!
- Guest
- Mario Harik
- Read time
- ~5 min
- Uploaded
- 14 Apr 2026
- Duration
- 1:38:16
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- 25.1K
KEYPOINTS
- 01
Running a company is the engineering design process applied to strategy, plus people skills an engineer has to learn.
Harik tells his kids that engineers 'build things and fix things'. At XPO that means identifying a goal, gathering data, defining requirements, building a solution and testing the outcome: strategy, then KPIs, then an action plan for each KPI. The catch is that engineers chase perfection and people don't work that way. What surprised him most was that every person's mind works differently, 'in its own beautiful way'.
- 02
His main lesson from Brad Jacobs: set very big goals, because small goals produce small results.
Jacobs founded eight multibillion-dollar companies. Harik joined XPO as employee number three and worked under him for more than a decade. His version of the lesson is to take a project you think needs three years and ask how to do it in three months, at work and in life. He calls ultra-big goals 'the cure for complacency', because hitting a modest target invites a pat on the back and then coasting, while winning against big targets breeds more ambition.
- 03
Hire for three things: very good at the job, serious about the work, and collegial.
Serious doesn't mean 90-hour weeks. It means taking the mission of the company and the role to heart every morning. Collegial includes kindness, humility and a thirst to learn, but not consensus. Harik worries when everyone in a meeting agrees, because it suggests the problem hasn't been looked at from ten angles and the team may settle for a local maximum. Disagree respectfully, focus on data rather than the person, then commit to one path.
- 04
XPO is run on about 10 daily KPIs, tracking both their change and the rate at which that change is changing.
Each strategic lever has KPIs, and each KPI has an action plan with owners. Being up 5% year on year is a first derivative. FP&A also looks at the second derivative, whether the trend is speeding up or slowing (5% sliding to 3% then 1%), and probability-weights risks and opportunities for weekly, monthly and quarterly forecasts. Every P&L owner has an FP&A partner showing which levers they can pull.
- 05
Service is the product: in less-than-truckload freight, better service earns market share and premium pricing.
XPO has about 40,000 employees, roughly 23,000 in North America, and 18,000 of those are drivers or dock workers. The average shipment is about 1,400 lb, consolidated across roughly 300 terminals. The two service measures are no damage and on-time delivery. Better service lets XPO sell higher-margin add-on services and gain profitable share.
- 06
Data used for coaching gets buy-in; data used only to police people breeds resentment.
Every handheld scan shows a worker two dials: productivity ranked against peers on the dock, and potential damages, such as unstrapped pallets. Damage is traced back to the last person who handled a pallet, and that person gets targeted training. Harik says the response has been good because the information is used to help people improve, not just to enforce strict rules.
- 07
Give feedback by starting with what makes someone great, and ground criticism in data rather than opinion.
Early in his career he handed people his own solution, which he says caused the team's thinking to 'atrophy' and capped results at his own expertise. Now he teaches people a process for analyzing the data, and often their designs beat what he would have come up with. 'You dropped the ball' makes people defensive. 'Here's what the data said we could reach, and where we landed' doesn't.
- 08
Ego is thinking you're so good that you stop learning.
He started coding in BASIC on a Commodore 64, read his older brother's computer-engineering books as a young teen, and arrived at the American University of Beirut sure he was the best programmer alive. At MIT he met programmers '50 times better'. The humility that followed is what let him keep learning instead of getting stuck.
- 09
A CEO has three value levers: the team, capital allocation and time allocation.
For capital, the question is the return on each dollar, not the size of the check: does $1 million deployed return $100,000 a year or $3 million? Options include internal projects, M&A where '1 + 1 > 2', paying down debt, or buying back shares while they're cheap. For time, he goes where action plans aren't working and focuses on inputs, not outputs.
EXAMPLES
- 01
The nearly $1 billion Yellow terminal bet
When rival Yellow went bankrupt in 2023, its terminals, some with docks about a mile long and very hard to permit and build, came up for sale. XPO mapped Yellow's network onto its own, found 28 properties in capacity-constrained growth markets, and wrote a business plan for each (for example, growing from 5% share in a market toward its ~10% national share). Harik, then a new CEO, started with a smaller bid and spent nearly $1 billion with chairman Jacobs' input. FP&A now tracks each terminal against its plan.
- 02
Break-room notes sent to the top 100 leaders
Harik visits terminals early in the morning and sits in break rooms with a notebook, collecting ideas on tires, truck parts, handhelds, pay and benefits. He emails them to the top 100 people as lessons 'from the people who matter most'. Drivers told him a service bonus wasn't enough without accountability for coworkers who mishandled freight, which led to tracking damage to individuals.
- 03
Meetings built on ranked takeaways and questions
A week before monthly operating reviews, materials go out and attendees submit takeaways and questions, then rank everyone's from 1 to 10. Meetings open with the top takeaways. Rules: no devices, one speaker at a time, juniors speak first, and Harik speaks last so he doesn't bias the room. Each meeting ends with every attendee's takeaways and what they'll do differently.
- 04
Brad Jacobs' A/C player test
Imagine someone saying 'don't try to talk me out of it, I'm leaving.' If you go home with a pit in your stomach, they're an A player. If you think 'great, we can upgrade', they're a C player.
- 05
Interviews that go four clicks deep
Instead of asking a sales leader 'How did you grow revenue?', he asks how they structured the sales force, managed leads and pipeline, handled account plans, and what their daily face-to-face meeting targets were. He also reads a 50-page packet of other interviewers' notes and probes every red flag, because flagged concerns often turn out to be why people fail. He ends with the airport test: would he enjoy being stuck with this person?
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Think in a decision tree each morning
He spends 15–30 minutes in a calm spot, often his car, running worries and recent reading through chess-like branches, and ends up with three or four priorities. He says that thinking faster than your inner voice speaks is a trainable skill.
- 02
Treat repetition across sources as signal
Analysts send him hundreds of highlighted pages each weekend on XPO, competitors, customers and the industry. A theme that keeps showing up across independent sources counts as signal, while a one-off doesn't. He reads long documents himself, then asks several AI platforms for their takeaways and compares them to spot what he missed.
- 03
Run on 'clean fuel'
Unlike chip-on-the-shoulder drivers like Michael Jordan or Tom Brady, Harik and Jacobs measure winning by reaching their own potential, not crushing rivals. Steal good ideas from competitors, but grow the pie.