Neuralink & Technologies to Enhance Human Brains | Dr. Matthew MacDougall

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Dr. Matthew MacDougall
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17 Apr 2023
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KEYPOINTS

  • 01

    The brain is a set of functional modules

    MacDougall, Neuralink's head neurosurgeon, who trained at UC San Diego and Stanford, says watching a small tumor knock out one discrete function shows the brain is a collection of modules 'duct-taped together' in a bone box. Hormones, vision, sensation and movement can each fail independently.

  • 02

    The frontal lobes act as a filter on impulses

    Rather than simply suppressing impulses, the frontal lobes let them through under control, like 'you can have it if you pay for it first'. MacDougall recalls a young car-crash patient with damage to both frontal lobes who, after surgery, openly propositioned his 80-year-old recovery nurse.

  • 03

    Deep brain structures are 'firmware'

    Regions governing body temperature, blood pressure, hunger, sex and sleep are similar across species and more predictable when damaged or stimulated. The neocortex, the part that reasons and problem-solves, differs vastly between a fox and a human. One odd example: hypothalamic tumors in children can cause gelastic seizures, bouts of joyless laughter that have occasionally been fatal.

  • 04

    Laser ablation is changing tumor surgery

    Through a 2 mm hole in the skull, surgeons pass a fiber-optic probe and heat a deep tumor while monitoring its temperature under real-time MRI. Tumors in the brainstem, motor cortex or Broca's area, once inoperable or catastrophic to remove, can now sometimes be eliminated with almost no aftereffects.

  • 05

    MacDougall thinks drugs will beat electrodes for boosting plasticity

    Plasticity declines with age. Because broad rewiring means changing trillions of synapses at once, he thinks drugs such as psychedelics will do more than any electrode he expects to see in his lifetime, which is surprising coming from Neuralink's surgeon.

  • 06

    Neuralink's first goal is restoring 'digital freedom'

    Threads thinner than a human hair, placed by a robot, would record from the intact motor cortex of people with high spinal cord injuries so they can control a cursor and keyboard by intention alone. Robots are needed because no human hand is steady enough to place micron-scale loops among densely packed surface blood vessels. A later goal is a spinal implant to bypass the injury and reconnect brain to body.

  • 07

    Decoding relies on smart software and patients who give feedback

    Software adapts to the brain's firing patterns while the user learns the device. Neuralink holds the record bit rate for monkeys controlling a cursor, which MacDougall credits partly to Krishna Shenoy's lab. Human volunteers can say what they're trying, and Stanford work (Shenoy, Jaimie Henderson) has even decoded speech from the hand area.

  • 08

    MacDougall argues bit rate is the yardstick for brain interfaces

    Like a modem's speed, the key number is how much useful information a device can move into or out of the brain. Wearables such as Neosensory's sound-to-touch wristband are easy to adopt but have low ceilings. Implants could in principle reach millions of neurons.

  • 09

    MacDougall says alcohol is the most common brain damage people choose

    He says his patients near San Francisco's Tenderloin who've been heavy drinkers for years show brains 'like small walnuts' on scans. Huberman cites UK brain-imaging data showing near-linear thinning of gray matter with each additional weekly drink. MacDougall would like people to be far more wary of it.

  • 10

    The skull's one design flaw

    The temple bone is among the thinnest in the skull, and the middle meningeal artery runs right beneath it, a feature surgeons call 'God's little joke'. A focused blow can fracture the bone and tear the artery, causing an epidural blood clot that crushes the brain. Fluid around the brain otherwise cushions it well.

  • 11

    Why some brains survive big lesions and others don't

    MacDougall says species, age and redundancy explain the contradiction. Removing half the brain of a very young baby can still allow high function because the remaining half takes over. Adult humans, by contrast, lose discrete functions such as speech, finger control or part of vision from small lesions.

  • 12

    MacDougall's long-term vision

    Within 10–20 years he hopes to tackle addiction, depression, suicide and obesity as brain malfunctions. For his children's generation he imagines cognition merged with AI and communication freed from the narrow 'flapping air past meat' bottleneck of speech. Texting by thought, he notes, is mostly an engineering problem rather than a neuroscience one.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    An RFID chip in his hand

    MacDougall implanted a passive glass RFID tag between his thumb and forefinger at his kitchen table, coated in extra silicone because he rock-climbs. It opened his front door and Neuralink's doors, and once stored a crypto wallet key that had gained a few thousand dollars when he remembered it. His wife later asked for one, and they consider them their wedding rings.

  • 02

    He'd take a Neuralink implant himself

    MacDougall says yes, though the first version wouldn't help an able-bodied person. He believes the procedure is already safer than many standard FDA-approved surgeries he performs.

  • 03

    No water deprivation for the monkeys

    Many labs motivate animals by restricting water. MacDougall says Neuralink monkeys like 'Pager' have full food and water and play games for smoothie treats only if they want to. Pigs serve as a skull-sized platform for testing safety.

  • 04

    Bluetooth headphones

    MacDougall uses them and says their power levels are far too low to worry him, compared with the background radiation we're all exposed to.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Protect your brain with the basics

    Avoid head injuries and especially a second one, get any head injury treated, and cut back on alcohol. Huberman notes we don't yet know what chronic stimulant use (Adderall, modafinil) does to the brain.

  • 02

    Drowsy driving is a major risk

    Huberman's reading of the data is that reduced alertness contributes to about a third of vehicle accidents. MacDougall notes that Tesla's cabin camera already tracks whether drivers' eyes are on the road.

  • 03

    How to take part

    At the time, Neuralink was still working toward FDA approval and kept a patient registry for people with quadriplegia interested in future trials.