AMA #11: Improve Task Switching & Productivity and Reduce Brain Fog
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- 29 Sept 2023
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KEYPOINTS
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Task switching is distinct from cognitive flexibility
Huberman explains that the prefrontal cortex, really a collection of subregions, lets us apply context-specific rules. A high-school student, for example, follows different rules in math class than in history, and different teachers allow different behavior. Cognitive flexibility is the ability to change the kind of mental operation you're running. Task switching depends on that flexibility but is a narrower skill: stopping one activity and fully engaging in another.
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How labs study task switching
In typical experiments, people perform one mental task, such as counting up in sevens or in alternating steps of seven plus one and seven minus one. At a tone or a fixed interval, perhaps every 10 minutes, they must switch to a different cognitive task. Other studies switch between manual tasks, such as fitting puzzle pieces. Fewer studies look at switching between physical and mental tasks.
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Expect 5–10 minutes before focus arrives
Unless material grips you, such as a text you're eagerly awaiting or directions to find a friend in a busy city, the circuits needed to understand and remember a book chapter, spreadsheet or tax form take about 5–10 minutes to reach the activity level you experience as focus. Huberman says many people wrongly blame themselves for poor attention because they expect instant immersion. He adds that he can't rule out clinical ADHD for anyone.
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Switching is push-pull: some circuits ramp up while others quiet down
Moving to task B requires engaging new neural circuits and disengaging or letting fade the ones that served task A. He compares this to dimming the lights in one room while brightening another. The same applies to physical work: no one expects peak lifting or cycling performance without a warm-up, or while still replaying the conversation they had on the way in.
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Insert a deliberate transition period, even 15 seconds
Huberman describes findings that even a short, arbitrary transition, one you consciously label as transition, leads to more complete and efficient engagement in the next task than switching straight across. He calls this a top-down effect: knowing why the gap helps lets you use it, with no drug or supplement needed.
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Scale the gap to how deep you were
After light work, such as email, a routine meeting or chatting with a coworker, a minute or two is enough. After deep immersion, give yourself 5–10 minutes if you can. If time is short, any designated transition helps, even 60–90 seconds, or just a 10-second count from 10 down to 1.
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Bring in no new information during the gap
The key ingredient is the absence of new input. Checking your phone, texting, social media or any other 'foraging' is itself a task: images, videos and new ideas anchor attention and will intrude on task B. His advice is to avoid turning A-to-B into A-to-C-to-B. He isn't anti-smartphone. He uses his phone often between bouts of focus, just not in these windows.
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Visual focus and time perception are linked
Where you place your visual attention changes how finely your brain slices time. Attending to your body or nearby space resembles high-frame-rate, slow-motion video (fine slicing), while gazing at the horizon slices time more coarsely. Different tasks, like a Zoom meeting versus lifting weights or reading, also run in different time domains, so switching tasks partly means switching time scales.
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A daily perceptual drill to train switching
Huberman does a 2–3 minute 'space-time bridging' practice most mornings. He frames it as a visual perceptual exercise, not meditation. Moving attention through near-to-far 'stations' trains the brain to shift visual focus and time perception, and makes you aware of how transitions feel. He thinks even once or three times a week helps.
EXAMPLES
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How to do the drill
Eyes closed, attend to body sensations or breathing for about 5–15 seconds. Eyes open, focus on your hand for 5–15 seconds. Then look about 10 feet away, then about 50 feet away, then as far toward the horizon as possible, holding each spot for 5–15 seconds while keeping some awareness of your breathing. Finish by closing your eyes and returning to your immediate surroundings. A view from a balcony or outdoors is ideal, and the distances needn't be precise.
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Chess boxing as extreme switching
In this real sport, opponents alternate rounds of chess with boxing rounds of roughly one to three minutes. Huberman cites it as task switching at its most extreme and explicitly does not recommend it.
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Huberman's own struggle
He drops into deep focus easily but struggles to leave it, which is why he sometimes runs late. As a new assistant professor writing grants, he'd get two lines down before a knock at the door about syringes or buffers pulled him away.
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The three-things list
While he was a master's student at Berkeley, a professor told him he wrote down no more than three critical tasks each day. Routine activities like cycling to campus, running or the gym didn't count. Huberman still lists one to three demanding tasks per day, and leaves the rest of his day to automatic routines.
OTHER RELEVANT
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Don't do the drill while driving
He considers space-time bridging very safe and free, but says not to do it while driving or operating machinery.
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Tune out lab or office distractions
From years in busy labs, he says getting good at your craft includes learning not to join the crowd around a screen (say, a World Cup score) when you're moving between focused tasks. He still encourages socializing, such as chatting in the hallway after a meeting.
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Coverage note
The freely available portion of this AMA addresses only task switching. The brain-fog and productivity topics in the title are covered in the members-only remainder.