LIVE EVENT Q&A: Dr. Andrew Huberman Question & Answer in Chicago, IL

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KEYPOINTS

  • 01

    Brain health in later life rides on vascular health

    Asked by someone about to turn 70, Huberman's answer was the one he gives everyone: the brain is a heavy fuel consumer, so whatever keeps arteries and capillaries clear helps it. Borrowing from Peter Attia, he cites about 150 to 200 minutes per week of zone 2 cardio, movement at which you can just barely hold a conversation, plus resistance training two or three times per week for everyone.

  • 02

    Load-bearing exercise and strength may protect cognition

    Load-bearing movement releases hormones from bone that cross the blood-brain barrier and may support neurons in areas such as the hippocampus. He flags that this extends mostly animal data to humans, with some human data emerging. He mentions a new paper from Andy Galpin's lab and collaborators correlating cognitive health with strength, and notes that weakening grip and growing left-right grip asymmetry track with cognitive decline.

  • 03

    Fine control of the extremities is a marker of nervous-system health

    Floppy feet and an inability to extend or spread the toes are among many correlates of dementia. Newborns are tested for the Babinski reflex for the same reason. Huberman, who has broken one foot several times, has been using a toe spreader: painful at first, but improving toe spreading gives more foot stability and pain-free movement.

  • 04

    For shift workers, consistency and light matter most

    Shift work is bad for a diurnal species, and swing shifts that keep changing are the worst, so try to keep one schedule for at least two weeks. To wake up, get bright light in your eyes, sunlight or artificial, mainly because it acutely suppresses melatonin. He prefers an inexpensive 900 lux LED over costly daylight simulators.

  • 05

    Sleep when you can if the schedule is chronic

    For a long-term pattern such as a firefighter's 24 hours on and 48 off, or new parenthood, grab whatever sleep you can. For a one-off disruption such as a trip to Europe, there is no need to maximize sleep; stay with the local schedule instead.

  • 06

    Hypnosis combines narrow focus with deep relaxation

    Drawing on Stanford psychiatrist David Spiegel's work, Huberman describes clinical hypnosis as self-directed rather than stage hypnosis. Normally plasticity requires intense focus followed later by deep rest; hypnosis marries the two states, which may speed neuroplasticity. In highly hypnotizable people, success rates for smoking cessation and pain relief are impressive. He wishes it had a better name, the same reason he rebranded yoga nidra as NSDR.

  • 07

    Psychedelics likely work by shifting neuromodulators, and the risks are real

    Rewiring ultimately comes from shifts in dopamine, serotonin, norepinephrine and acetylcholine. Psilocybin is structurally very similar to serotonin and activates specific serotonin receptors; roughly 12 to 20 good-sized trials at places such as Johns Hopkins, UCSF and Switzerland suggest benefits for treatment-resistant depression, done with preparatory and integration sessions. An open question is whether the subjective trip matters or only the serotonin. He calls microdosing data unconvincing, MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD more robust, and says kids should absolutely not use psychedelics, nor anyone predisposed to bipolar disorder or schizophrenia.

  • 08

    Meditation sharpens focus but can disrupt sleep near bedtime

    Wendy Suzuki's work shows 10 to 13 minutes of daily meditation improves memory and focus. Footnotes in those papers indicate meditating close to bedtime can impair sleep, because meditation is a focusing exercise. For trouble sleeping, including falling back asleep in the middle of the night, he recommends NSDR instead.

  • 09

    NSDR can partly offset lost sleep, though Matt Walker disagrees

    Walker would say nothing replaces sleep. Huberman's read is that 10 to 20 or 30 minutes of NSDR each morning after a short night restores some of the lost feeling of wakefulness. A study with the Stanford sleep lab is underway, and some military units that cannot sleep rely on such tools, though they would prefer 8 to 10 hours of sleep.

  • 10

    Daylight saving time is anti-biology

    Citing chronobiologist Samer Hattar at the NIMH, Huberman says the time change increases car crashes, heart attacks and depression, and that claims it reduces evening crime are unsubstantiated. View low-angle morning and evening sunlight, which the Stanford ophthalmology chair confirmed carries little cataract or macular risk, longer on cloudy days, or use artificial light.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    Richard Axel's nicotine gum

    Visiting the Nobel laureate at Columbia, Huberman watched him chew at least five pieces of Nicorette in a short meeting, because nicotine's cholinergic and dopaminergic effects may protect against Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. Huberman does not recommend it, noting it raises blood pressure and causes vasoconstriction.

  • 02

    The Spiegel eye-roll test

    Hypnotizability is assessed by looking upward and closing the eyelids while keeping the gaze up. Upward gaze is linked to alertness and downward gaze plus lid closure to drowsiness, so people who can hold both, showing the whites of their eyes, can be very awake and very relaxed at once.

  • 03

    Yoga nidra at an addiction and trauma center

    Huberman first encountered yoga nidra in 2017 at a Florida recovery center whose therapist has clients do 30 minutes, eventually an hour, each morning, waking an hour early to use the liminal state between sleep and wakefulness.

  • 04

    Non-protein amino acids as a next frontier

    He predicts more attention to non-protein amino acids found in high density in seeds and nuts. The late Stanford scientist Ed Rubenstein hypothesized that, consumed in abundance and perhaps especially in liquid form, they might incorporate into human proteins and cause misfolding linked to neurodegeneration. Huberman labels this speculation and says seed oils are not inherently bad once calories are accounted for.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Advice for a 19-year-old's hyperplastic brain

    Learn how you learn, focus and rest. Stress and focus are fine as long as you can sleep well and fall back asleep. Have a cardio and a resistance activity you enjoy, a self-awareness practice such as journaling or meditation, and people you like around you. Learn an instrument, which improves broader learning even later in life, and do not worry that plasticity ends at 25.

  • 02

    Trust your early sense of right and wrong

    Rereading his old journals, Huberman finds he often knew better all along even when he did not act on it. Avoid rigidity about protocols, and do not spend years trying to resolve relationships with people you simply did not like.

  • 03

    Cannabis cautions

    He does not demonize cannabis and acknowledges clinical uses, but very high-THC products can be a problem, especially for people predisposed to psychosis. For anyone claiming it is not addictive, he suggests stopping for a week and noticing sleep and mood.

  • 04

    What education should add

    He would teach children early how the brain and body work and give them zero-cost levers for stress, sleep and nutrition, and for avoiding social isolation.