Health Effects & Risks of Kratom, Opioids & Other Natural Occurring Medicines | Dr. Chris McCurdy
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- Dr. Chris McCurdy
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KEYPOINTS
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Kratom is a Southeast Asian tree whose effects depend on dose
Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) is native to the border region of peninsular Malaysia and Thailand. There, outdoor laborers chew fresh leaves or drink a decoction boiled for hours, using it much as people use coffee to get through heat and hard work. Traditionally it is also used for pain, mood and as a 'nature's Viagra.' McCurdy describes the paradox: small amounts act as a stimulant, while larger amounts produce a more euphoric, sedative, opioid-like effect, which men in the region used socially on weekend evenings in a mostly alcohol-free Muslim culture.
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US kratom products are very different from the traditional leaf
Western products start as dried leaf, mostly from Indonesia (roughly 250,000 farmers), exposed to sun and air and shipped around the world. Ground leaf in capsules or as powder stirred into water is the closest thing to traditional use, and absorption is slow because the body has to extract the alkaloids itself. Extracts, concentrates and isolates made with ethanol, oil or juice deliver the compounds already pulled out, so they are absorbed much faster. McCurdy compares this range to light beer versus fortified spirits.
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Read servings per bottle, not just the serving
McCurdy's lab has tested nearly every product on the market, and a single labeled serving is broadly similar to a traditional glass of tea. The danger is in the number of servings per container: a bottle may hold 2, 9 or 15. Someone used to downing a two-serving bottle can swallow a 15-serving shot in one go, in a form that is absorbed quickly. Some shots sit next to 5-hour Energy at gas stations.
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7-hydroxymitragynine products behave like pure opioids
The leaf contains roughly 20–40 alkaloids. The main one, mitragynine, is converted in the body into 7-hydroxymitragynine, which acts only on opioid receptors, and the plant itself has never been shown to make it. Manufacturers now synthesize it and sell semi-synthetic 'kratom-derived' products or isolates, under a dietary-ingredient loophole that treats metabolites as dietary ingredients. McCurdy's rat study (on bioRxiv, headed to the Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics) found these products cause respiratory depression equivalent to opioids.
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Whole-leaf kratom acts on three pain systems at once
Mitragynine has only weak opioid-receptor affinity. Other alkaloids act strongly on serotonin, which affects mood and pain, and on adrenergic receptors, which drive stimulant activity. McCurdy calls the leaf a 'pharmaceutical shotgun' or 'symphony orchestra' that combines opioid, serotonergic and adrenergic pain relief in a way no single drug does. This may explain why some users call it the best pain relief they have had. He stresses that most of the roughly 1,000 papers on kratom, about 10% from his lab, study mitragynine alone, and 'mitragynine does not equal kratom.'
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Physical dependence is real and tolerance builds for pain relief
A single use will not create dependence, but regular use can. Missing a morning dose brings headaches and misery similar to caffeine withdrawal, and with stronger products some users report restless legs, which looks more like opioid withdrawal. Pain-relieving effects seem to lose strength over time, pushing doses up. There are no chronic studies in humans or animals to say how quickly this happens.
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Use is widespread and mostly not for getting high
Published estimates are 2–2.5 million US users, but sales and imports (1,950 metric tons a month in 2019) suggest over 20 million daily users. In McCurdy's ecological momentary assessment study, people logged each dose by smartphone. Most used it for energy, mood elevation and pain, including as a pre-workout or post-workout aid, and often within 30 minutes of waking. A smaller group used it to get high, probably with concentrates, and others used it to get off opioids.
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Quitting kratom has no evidence-based protocol yet
Before COVID, addiction physicians in Gainesville saw patients improving after switching from opioids to kratom. After COVID, they saw people seeking treatment to get off kratom. Clinicians often use buprenorphine (Suboxone) or methadone, which seems to work, but McCurdy worries this addresses only the opioid component, ignores the serotonin and adrenergic effects, and may leave people dependent on a pure opioid that is harder to quit. Counseling and social support matter alongside medication.
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Vein colors are mostly marketing
White, red, green, brown and yellow 'vein' products reflect how leaves were dried, plus sun or cold damage to trees normally grown in the shade. Alkaloid profiles across the colors are very similar in the lab's analyses, though other chemical differences cannot be ruled out. Huberman compares this to the indica-versus-sativa debate in cannabis.
EXAMPLES
- 01
The 'little blue bottle' habit
Huberman recounts a friend's assistant who went from one kratom-kava bottle to six a day and felt anxious and unwell with headaches when she cut back to three. That pattern resembles escalating nicotine pouch use.
- 02
The 2007 seizure case
In the first human case report (2008), with emergency physician Ed Boyer, a man who had switched from Dilaudid to leaf kratom cold turkey took his wife's modafinil and had a full seizure. Afterward he quit kratom with only a runny nose and no cravings, a striking but single, caveated case that shows the risk of mixing drugs at home.
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Coca leaf and Coca-Cola
Coca-Cola still imports Peruvian coca leaf through the Stepan Company in New Jersey. Alkaloids are removed for pharmaceutical cocaine, still the best local anesthetic for nasal and eye surgery, and the decocainized extract flavors the drink. The WHO is reviewing coca leaf, which is rich in calcium and vitamins, and McCurdy's lab plans to study it.
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Theobromine in cacao
Theobromine, the main alkaloid in cacao, is a xanthine and close relative of caffeine with one fewer methyl group. It is a mild stimulant that may aid respiration, similar to theophylline, which was long used for asthma.
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Medicines borrowed from nature
Morphine was the first alkaloid ever isolated and cocaine the second. Berberine from tree bark lowers blood glucose. GLP-1 drugs trace back to peptides in Gila monster saliva.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Keep kratom away from anyone under 18 to 25
State limits are 18 or 21. McCurdy would prefer about 25 because the prefrontal cortex is still developing and the effects of kratom on young brains are unknown. Teens are drawn by 'you'll get high' claims and may take a second dose before the first hits.
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Adults who use leaf products should go low and slow
Regular users commonly say 'less is more.' Never ratchet doses up, and treat dependence as a real possibility. Whether a few days off feel like caffeine withdrawal varies from person to person.
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Avoid 7-OH, 'kratom-derived' and isolate products
Huberman's suggested framework: block young people's access, advise caution and the minimum effective dose for adults using leaf, and restrict the opioid-like derivatives. Many buyers do not realize they are not getting leaf.
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Do not combine kratom with other drugs
No studies test kratom with alcohol. There are anecdotal reports that it reduces drinking, and NIAAA-funded groups are studying it for alcohol use disorder, but 7-OH products depress breathing like opioids. The modafinil seizure case shows the risk of combining substances at home. Tell clinicians exactly which product you used.