The Only Dating Advice You'll Ever Need
- Guest
- Logan Ury
- Read time
- ~5 min
- Uploaded
- 9 Dec 2024
- Duration
- 1:20:15
- Views
- 360.9K
KEYPOINTS
- 01
You're born knowing how to love, not how to date
Logan Ury is a Harvard-trained behavioral scientist, author of How to Not Die Alone and Director of Relationship Science at Hinge. She came to this view while filming a show about daters over 55. Dating is a skill you can improve. 'You don't wake up on your 50th birthday and know how to make a delicious French meal.' Mel says up front the episode isn't sponsored by Hinge.
- 02
Don't blame the apps for what has always been hard
Stanford sociologist Michael J. Rosenfeld's research shows online has been the number one way couples meet since 2017. Ury argues the pains that have always come with dating get pinned on technology: liking someone who doesn't like you back, not hearing back (ghosting before it had a name), and fear of rejection. Sex and the City showed New Yorkers struggling with dating long before the apps.
- 03
Your filters are the bouncer at your club
Setting a 'six feet or taller' filter without much thought removes about 86% of men, and then people wonder why the club is empty. Men do the same with harsh age cutoffs. Someone you'd click with across a bar might never show up at all. Removing every filter would be chaotic. Instead, she suggests stretching your age range a little in both directions, widening geography and letting go of the other screens.
- 04
Too picky and too passive both cause burnout
Most of her clients are too picky, but some are overwhelmed by incoming likes and never comment or reach out. She compares that to wanting a dream job but only answering LinkedIn messages. Getting in the driver's seat, by pursuing people and talking to them in real life, cuts burnout. A Hinge finding she cites: 56% of people aren't pursuing someone they're interested in because of fear of rejection.
- 05
Date like a scientist
Treat 'my type' as a hypothesis to test. A client insisted on a '5'6" skinny redhead,' and she told him he was wrong and to experiment. When clients say 'he's not really my type,' she hears 'ding ding ding,' because the type hasn't been working. Her own husband is her opposite in personality and interests, but they share a sense of humor and she admires him. For people tempted to go back to an ex, she asks: are you doing the safe thing?
- 06
Forget the spark; look for the slow burn
Her book chapter is bluntly titled 'F*** the Spark.' She names three myths. First, that a spark can't grow: she says only 11% of couples felt love at first sight. Second, that a spark is a good sign: some people, like her friend Archie, are just 'sparky' with everyone. Third, that a spark means the relationship is viable: she interviewed divorced couples who clung to a romantic origin story. Mel adds that sparks often signal a familiar, dysfunctional pattern.
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Three toxic dating tendencies
Romanticizers have unrealistic expectations of relationships and want a rom-com meet-cute. Maximizers have unrealistic expectations of a partner and want a 'Frankenstein' of someone's looks, someone else's ambition and another person's family. Hesitaters have unrealistic expectations of themselves and wait until they've lost 10 pounds or landed a better job.
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Each tendency has a fix
Romanticizers: if you're married 50 years, the day you met is 0.55% of the relationship. She also cites psychologist Renae Franiuk's research on shifting from a 'soulmate' mindset to a 'work it out' mindset. Maximizers, often tech CEOs used to having recruiters fill job descriptions, should become satisficers with high but fixed standards. Hesitaters should start before they're ready, because no one is ever 100% ready.
- 09
Separate pet peeves from dealbreakers
A woman who said she was 'open to anyone' then ruled out mouth-breathers. Ury never tells people to settle, but to 'double down on the things that matter' and compromise on the small annoyances.
EXAMPLES
- 01
10% of men get 90% of the attention
Ury describes app attention concentrating on a small slice of profiles, with women's interest focused on a few men. Mel, mother of two daughters in their 20s and a 19-year-old son, says she hears the frustration from both sides.
- 02
Gen Z believes in soulmates more
Hinge found Gen Z was 39% more likely than Millennials to believe in a soulmate, which Ury calls an idealistic generation looking for its own rom-com.
- 03
'Why do you think I'm single?'
Before a first session, clients must ask friends and family this question. The common answers are 'too picky,' 'not putting yourself out there' and 'unrealistic expectations.' The hardest feedback is 'you keep choosing people who aren't good for you,' a sign of ignoring red flags.
- 04
The 'undateable' email
Her email asking 'what makes you undateable?' drew her biggest response ever: an STI, a partner's suicide, never having been in a relationship, too many relationships. A disabled veteran on her show was turning down athletic women because he couldn't jog with them. Her advice is to prepare a short narrative ('this happened, it was hard, here's what I did') so fear of the topic doesn't keep you from dating.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Build a profile like successful daters
Based on people who met someone and deleted the app: start with a clear headshot (no filters, no sunglasses, no one else in it), then a photo doing something you love, then a full-body shot. Use prompt answers to tell stories that show vulnerability and silliness.
- 02
Use the events decision matrix
Draw a 2x2 grid that rates events on how likely you are to meet someone and how much you'll enjoy it. Browse Facebook, Meetup and museum listings, then prioritize events that score high on both. At a Red Sox game, chat in the beer line. Getting in any line and talking about the line is a reliable icebreaker.
- 03
Start in medias res
Skip 'press play' small talk about siblings and majors. Open with something you're thinking about, like a podcast idea you heard on the way, so the date becomes an experience instead of an information exchange.
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Hesitaters need a deadline
She won't book another session until a client has gone on three dates. Set a deadline, buy a cute outfit, choose fun first-date ideas and get a friend to hold you accountable.