This Teen Cracked the Code on Anxiety and Teaches You How He Did It | Mel Robbins Podcast

Guest
Oakley Robbins
Read time
~5 min
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6 Nov 2023
Duration
0:52:15
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36.4K
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KEYPOINTS

  • 01

    Stress is part of life, so stop resisting it

    Answering a 17-year-old who wants a stress-free college search, Oakley, now 18 and just done with his applications, says that isn't possible and the process is arguably supposed to be stressful. Accepting stress, then stepping back to breathe, beats rewriting the same essay over and over because 'this isn't good enough.' Mel extends it to job hunts, fertility, dating and searching for purpose.

  • 02

    No single outcome decides your life

    Not getting into a dream school won't stop you from getting the job or living where you want; the school you end up at is usually great, and you can transfer. The bigger cost is spending senior year worrying and missing what Oakley calls arguably the most enjoyable year of high school, so appreciate where you are now.

  • 03

    Name your boundary instead of hoping people guess it

    Oakley told Mel he hears about college essays all day at school and didn't want to discuss them at home. Mel praises him for taking responsibility for the limit and suggests adults do the same: 'my weight is not up for discussion,' or 'please don't ask if I'm dating anyone.' Parents should know junior and senior year are '90% college' in a teen's head.

  • 04

    Don't keep raising what someone is already anxious about

    If your son and daughter-in-law are trying for a baby, they're already thinking about it every day. Mel describes a close friend who never had children and is hurt each time her mother says it breaks her heart. If someone wants to talk about a job search or a house hunt, they'll bring it up; show love in other ways.

  • 05

    Parent through your values, not through control

    On alcohol, Mel assumes every teen will experiment, so she and Chris focused on what they value most: trust, open communication and safety. Kids may try drinking with them first; there's no grounding for honesty, but lying is punished, and getting in a car with a drinking driver costs driving privileges for a year. Banning alcohol, she believes, produced sneaking, lying and binge drinking among other kids.

  • 06

    During divorce, be honest without details and keep your spouse out of it

    Oakley's advice: tell kids you're unhappy, repeat that it's not their fault, take their wishes about which house to be at seriously, recognize they're grieving too, and never vent about the other parent to them.

  • 07

    You usually already know when to break up

    Oakley says what holds most people back is fear of hurting the other person. An awkward hour or tears in a school hallway beat staying with someone you aren't happy with. Staying friends with an ex is possible, but only after space: no post-breakup hookups and no drunk calls, and the friendship won't look like the relationship.

  • 08

    Confidence is an action, not a feeling

    Mel's definition: confidence is the willingness to try. Oakley says middle school is where confidence drops, as bodies change and kids start talking about each other; what helped him was time, realizing nobody is looking at you as closely as you are, theater, and surrounding himself with people who hype him up rather than chasing a cool crowd.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    The solo jelly costume

    On Halloween, Oakley's peanut butter and jelly duo partner bailed. He nearly skipped his bulky costume, then saw everyone else's and put it on. He spent the day explaining 'it's just the jelly,' loved it, and realized the only one judging him was himself. Mel adds that Chris built confidence the same way by starting men's retreats and a master's in transpersonal psychology.

  • 02

    The summer camp bullying

    At a month-long camp around sixth grade, Oakley's letters went from 'I love it' in week one to 'get me out' in week two, but he didn't say why. When he finally told Mel he was being targeted, she 'became the Hulk' and pulled him out; the camp's investigation ended in a three-page letter from the director admitting it had profoundly failed.

  • 03

    Gaming as a phone call

    Mel and Chris used to fight over Oakley's gaming. Mel's view: on headsets with friends, it's a play date, the boys' equivalent of a three-hour phone call. Oakley suggests an hour or two on weekend days is fine, and only full-day, 9-to-5 gaming is a concern.

  • 04

    His sophomore-year low

    Two years earlier, Oakley was in a dark place and believed he'd feel that way forever. The mindset slowly moved to the back of his mind and faded, which is why he promises a struggling listener it will get better.

  • 05

    His daily journal

    Mel learns on air that Oakley arrives at school 20 minutes early to journal in the car about the previous day, and has for about a year. He'd never show her, and she respects it, along with his room and his twice-daily showers.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Oakley's 'mentors at the table' exercise for anxiety

    Sit up straight, plant your feet, rest your hands on your thighs. Take three slow breaths in and out through your nose with eyes open, then close your eyes (not while driving). Picture a long table of mentors, real or fictional. Ask each, 'Do you love me?', then 'Do you have any wisdom for me?', taking the first thought that comes, then ask about love once more and open your eyes.

  • 02

    Openers for a teen who's always in their room

    Oakley: 'I feel like you're in your room a lot recently, I'm curious what's happening.' Mel's: 'You don't seem like yourself.' A 15-year-old is likely on her phone, and that's normal; worry if they come home and never leave the room. A regular family dinner with a high-and-low round opens conversation.

  • 03

    If a college kid reports bullying, assume it's worse

    Mel reads a college athlete telling a parent about team bullying or hazing as a sign they don't know what to do. Ask leading questions: Are you telling me everything? Are you nervous going to practice? Have you told anyone? What do you think you should do?

  • 04

    Raising favoritism or staying close to siblings

    Bring specific examples and say how it made you feel ('I'm starting to feel like I'm not important') rather than accusing parents of favorites. Siblings who rarely talk can stay connected through a family group chat with photos, memes and occasional 'roll call.'