Repairing a Broken Relationship: It’s Not Too Late | The Mel Robbins Podcast
- Guest
- Dr. Joshua Coleman
- Read time
- ~5 min
- Uploaded
- 13 Jul 2023
- Duration
- 1:13:38
- Views
- 73.8K
KEYPOINTS
- 01
Estrangement is a deliberate, usually one-sided cutoff, and it's common
Dr. Joshua Coleman, a San Francisco psychologist and author of Rules of Estrangement, defines it as a complete or near-complete cutoff that one person wants and the other doesn't, most often initiated by an adult child. He cites an Ohio State study finding 26% of fathers and 6% of mothers estranged from a child (other studies put mothers closer to 10-11%), and estimates about 27% of US families have an estranged member. He notes definitions vary, which muddies the research.
- 02
Culture shifted from role to self
Drawing on sociologist Anthony Giddens's idea of the 'pure relationship,' Coleman says ties are now judged by whether they serve an individual's happiness and goals, rather than by roles like 'good adult child.' Estrangement has always existed, but never before has cutting off a parent been framed as good for mental health or an act of courage.
- 03
The main pathways: abuse claims, divorce, in-laws, therapy and mental illness
Adult children most often cite emotional or physical abuse, neglect and differing values. In his study of 1,600 estranged parents, about 70% had divorced, which can lead kids to blame one parent or compete with step-families. Others include mental illness in parent or child, a son- or daughter-in-law who says 'choose me or them,' and therapists who diagnose a parent from afar.
- 04
He believes some therapists push clients toward cutoffs
Coleman says parents show him letters stating 'my therapist says you're a narcissist and can't change,' from therapists who never met them. Childhood trauma is real, he stresses, but he thinks the culture now over-assumes it behind every adult problem. Mel notes they may differ on how much childhood trauma drives adult behavior.
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Over-closeness and pursuit can trigger the break
He cites a University of Virginia survey finding most parents expect to be best friends with their grown children, which many adult children don't want. Texting and social media let anxious parents intrude anywhere, and the most common line in estranged children's letters is 'respect my boundaries.' When a parent responds to normal distance by acting hurt or critical, it can become John Gottman's pursuer-distancer dynamic.
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Five common mistakes estranged parents make
Expecting it to be fair (which breeds victimhood and resentment); using guilt, which he says no longer works in North American culture, though cultures with filial duty tolerate it more; returning fire with fire; assuming every unanswered text is personal; and treating repair as a sprint. He adds a sixth: half-hearted amends like 'I'm sorry you feel that way.'
- 07
Reconciliation happens largely on the estranged person's terms
Unlike couples therapy, where both partners have equal claims, he tells families that sessions are about helping the parent become more empathic and respect boundaries, and that if he sides with anyone it will be the adult child. Once the parent shows empathy and accepts those terms, the relationship can move to discussing what the parent needs.
- 08
Parents have a moral duty to take the high road, and adult children owe something too
Because children didn't choose to be born, Coleman says parents must lead, take more responsibility than feels fair, and not get pulled into the weeds. He also argues adult children owe parents a period of due diligence: hearing them out and seeing them three-dimensionally, with compassion rather than contempt, though not tolerating ongoing abuse.
- 09
Concept creep makes generations talk past each other
He cites Australian psychologist Nick Haslam's 2015 'concept creep' paper: definitions of abuse, trauma and neglect have expanded. A parent hearing 'you emotionally abused me' often can't relate. His suggested reply: 'It's clear I have blind spots; I'd like to learn what that felt like and whether there's something you'd like me to read or work on.'
- 10
The odds favor reconciliation, slowly
Coleman says most estrangements eventually reconcile, even without his methods, as people mature, become parents themselves or want their kids to know their grandparents. It's a marathon of months or years, and catching the dynamic early leaves a smaller hole to climb out of.
EXAMPLES
- 01
Coleman's own daughter
Divorced in his 20s, he later remarried; his daughter cut contact for several years in her early 20s, feeling displaced by his new family's more stable life. His therapist advised reminding her what he'd done for her and showing up to demand to see her. Things turned only when he stopped explaining, defending and blaming. Reconciling took many conversations, and he says it still comes up occasionally.
- 02
Mel's prom-suit moment
After an hour and a half and hundreds of dollars on a black suit for her son's prom, Mel asked for a ride home and he said it would make him late for practice. She caught herself before saying 'are you kidding me,' recognizing a transactional 'I did this, so you owe me' reflex, and saw that he had also accommodated her schedule.
- 03
Mel and her mom
Newly married and living near her husband's family on the East Coast, Mel sensed her Midwest-based mom felt she was losing her to another family. Every conversation had landmines. Mel credits therapy with avoiding a rupture and feels closer to her mother now than ever.
- 04
Listeners Mel met in real life
One woman hadn't spoken to her sister in five years; a man and his wife hadn't spoken to their daughter, who has mental health issues, in seven years and didn't know where she lived. Mel's uncle died without meeting two grandchildren, who then came to his memorial.
- 05
The lighthouse model
For parents alienated after a divorce, Coleman's image is standing steady on the beach broadcasting light while the child is tossed by waves. They may orient toward you, get pulled back out, and eventually find their way, so the job is to stay loving, available and accountable.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
How to write an amends letter
Keep it to about two paragraphs. Open with 'I know you wouldn't do this unless you felt it was the healthiest thing for you.' Name their complaints fearlessly, like a searching moral inventory, and how they may have hurt their trust or safety. Make no excuses, such as being a single mother or the other parent's failings, but don't make it self-hating either.
- 02
If you don't know why you were cut off
Say you clearly have blind spots and ask whether they'd be willing to write and tell you more, promising to read purely to learn, not to defend yourself.
- 03
Know when to stop
Returned letters, police threats or contact through an attorney signal it's time to stop completely, often for a year. He calls it 'lose your parent, find yourself': some adult children need to feel the absence to reconnect differently. He'd say the opposite for minor children: don't give up.
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Treat a child's partner as the gatekeeper
Never criticize a son- or daughter-in-law to your child, because it will likely be passed on; if you already have, work hard to make amends to them directly. Feeling replaced is developmentally normal, and complaining makes it worse.
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Siblings and friends in the middle shouldn't be advocates
Don't ask a non-estranged child to plead your case; they may be cut off too. Tell them they don't have to prop up your self-esteem and can voice their own complaints. Friends caught between two people should avoid taking sides, which can make the other person feel ganged up on.