A Toolkit for Families: Practical Wisdom That Makes You Closer | Mel Robbins Podcast
- Guest
- Chris, Sawyer, Kendall & Oakley Robbins
- Read time
- ~5 min
- Uploaded
- 22 Dec 2022
- Duration
- 1:00:17
- Views
- 31.9K
KEYPOINTS
- 01
'You will never get in trouble for telling the truth', and the parents actually kept that promise
Sawyer says this rule is the main reason all three kids talk so openly with Mel and Chris. Her friends' parents said the same thing and then grounded them anyway. The Robbins parents did what they said. Mel argues that most parents mean the line until the call comes about a blackout or a police-raided party, and then emotion takes over. Following through is the whole point.
- 02
Mel's number one parenting goal was to be the people the kids came to
She wanted her 13- to 16-year-olds to talk through what they were worried about or wanted to try with adults who would listen, not with other teenagers who 'don't know what the hell they're doing.' Mel didn't grow up with this. The message she got as a child was that trust takes a long time to build and two seconds to shatter.
- 03
Hearing is not the same as listening
One of the daughters draws the line clearly. Lots of parents hear 'I want to go to this party' or 'I slept with someone before I was ready,' but they've already decided the answer. Her parents took in how the kids felt, empathized, and loosened the reins enough to let them fail. Another sibling adds that when a parent's mind is made up before the talk starts, kids learn to be sneaky, and resentment follows.
- 04
Connection first, correction dead last
Mel and Chris say they never aimed to be their kids' friends. Mel describes the job as helping kids figure out who they are: thinking through decisions, finding their own values, feeling the weight of consequences, and eventually leaving to build their own lives. Chris notes that this meant listening respectfully even to ideas that were immature, dangerous or irritating.
- 05
Set guardrails around character, not activities
The kids say their parents' firm lines were about morals: be kind, hold the door, say thank you, learn the waiter's name. Nothing dangerous, self-destructive or discriminatory was ever allowed, and drinking and driving was off the table. Other families, they say, set rules about activities, like no drinking on weekends, and those rules mostly taught kids to hide.
- 06
Showing your feelings makes it safe for kids to show theirs
The kids have seen both parents cry at the dinner table over a bad day at work or a hard talk with a friend. Sawyer, 23, says many of her friends have never seen their parents cry, and that a constant brave face tells kids they aren't allowed a bad day. Mel adds a limit: be open about your life, but keep things like the details of your marriage private.
- 07
Kids are truth-tellers and lie detectors
Mel says honest communication works because what parents say has to match what kids actually experience. When she or Chris was upset, they said so up front with 'this is not about you,' so the kids didn't blame themselves for their parents' moods.
- 08
Go to your kids instead of dragging them to you
Mel's main takeaway is to do what your kids love, even if you don't, and to welcome their friends. Kendall wishes they'd done more girls' outings, like painting pottery, the pumpkin patch or shopping. Sawyer says the teenage stretch when friends matter more than family is a phase, and that family comes back, especially once kids leave for college.
- 09
Repair is always possible: tell your kids directly
A listener named Buffet asked how to make peace with past parenting mistakes. Kendall's answer: tell your adult kids you feel you messed up and want to connect. Mel models what that could sound like, for example 'I regret that I wasn't around more,' or 'I regret we were struggling so badly financially that I couldn't afford those things.' She says it's more useful than processing it all with your friends or spouse.
EXAMPLES
- 01
Sawyer and the handle of vodka
The first time Sawyer drank, she finished a whole handle of vodka and woke up covered in vomit on the window bench, sure she was 'dead meat.' On the screened-in porch, her parents told her they would never punish her for something they had also done as kids. Her only 'punishment' was going to a lacrosse tryout anyway. She says that talk opened the door for good.
- 02
Chris takes Oakley to PAX East
Chris doesn't play video games. He still offered, unprompted, to take Oakley to the PAX East gaming convention, where they walked the booths and played together. Oakley says it made him feel there was nothing wrong with what he enjoyed. The family also recalls Oakley trying gymnastics, diving, soccer and lacrosse for half a season each, while his parents simply asked what he wanted to try next.
- 03
A miserable freshman year at Boston College
One of the kids describes going to BC with a boyfriend at Michigan, making only one friend all year and crying daily to be picked up 20 minutes away. Her parents made her stay the year. Sophomore year turned into the best year of her life. Mel's script for this situation: 'I hear you, that is hard. We're paying tuition, so you finish the year. If you're that miserable, put the energy into transfer applications.' Mel's practical push was to knock on someone's door or DM someone to get lunch, and it worked.
- 04
The boyfriend no one liked
When Sawyer's parents first said she should break up with someone, she pulled away. When they switched to inviting him for dinner and framing their worry as 'you're not yourself around him,' the question 'who am I in this?' stayed in her mind until the end. Oakley describes hiding a girlfriend in his room to keep her comfortable, and says his parents' gentle comments stayed with him the same way.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Keep asking, and accept silence
For a listener with a four-year-old, the kids recommend a warm, genuinely curious invitation to share, over and over. If kids don't answer, that isn't a crisis. The asking itself tells them you're there.
- 02
Ask 'Do you want me to listen or give advice?'
Mel says nine times out of ten her kids just wanted her to listen, and then worked their way to a solution on their own. Don't rescue kids or let them bail on discomfort. Mel warns that letting them escape every hard situation raises their anxiety.
- 03
When a child is excluded, promise to listen, not to act
For a 12-year-old crying over her friend group, the kids suggest sharing a similar story from your own school days first. Then make clear you won't call teachers or scold anyone, because kids fear a parent stepping in will make the bullying worse.
- 04
Stop grounding, and keep their secrets
One of the kids says her grounded friends went straight back to parties, doing twice as much. Talk through why it upset you instead. The kids also insist that what a child tells one parent shouldn't reach the other parent, a friend on your walk, or anyone else.