How To Know If Your Relationship Is Over & 6 Pieces Of Advice To Make It Work | Mel Robbins Podcast

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KEYPOINTS

  • 01

    Don't stay 'for the kids'; stay for yourself, or not at all

    Answering a listener named Jennifer, who felt the cultural pendulum had swung from 'stay for the kids' to 'leave to be happy', Mel calls staying for the kids the world's worst advice. Kids know when you're miserable and learn a dysfunctional model. A valid reason to stay is your own values: keeping the family intact, and the friendships, community and history you've built together.

  • 02

    The exit door is usually the easy out, and the answers are usually in the mirror

    She worries that people now cut others off quickly and call them toxic. Her clear exceptions: leave if the relationship is abusive, if your partner is narcissistic, or if you're miserable after genuinely trying everything. But bailing to avoid the work carries the habit into your next relationship. She says she doesn't know anyone who truly worked to repair a marriage or friendship and regretted it, but knows many who regret not trying.

  • 03

    Whatever you'd do after a divorce, do it now

    After a split, people get in the best shape of their lives and become more vibrant to attract someone better. Mel asks why not do that now, for yourself. She adds that anyone new comes with 28 years you haven't seen, plus hidden trauma and history, whereas you know at least part of your current partner's story.

  • 04

    Relationships only work if both people work on them

    You can't fix a marriage from one side by fixing yourself. If your partner refuses, therapy alone will change you, but she calls that an 'enduring' marriage, and the person doing the work often grows right out of it. Eventually you may need to say that certain things are non-negotiable if you're going to stay.

  • 05

    'Transactional but emotionally sequestered' is how couples become roommates

    Their therapist, Dr. Cooper, told Mel and Chris they were excellent at the logistics, like cooking, calendars, parenting and projects, but had lost emotional connection over five to eight years. Mel admits that her resentment over Chris's failing business made her turn on him when he needed her most, a 'quiet quitting' of the marriage.

  • 06

    Step one: decide to make it better, and treat the marriage like a garden

    Wishing it were better is what you're already doing. Committing means scheduling the work. A marriage is a container where you both grow or wither, and small irritations are weeds that are five feet tall after a few days of rain. Talk about them, ask for what you need, and don't harbour resentment. Mel calls their every-other-week virtual therapy better than any date night.

  • 07

    Step two: get genuinely interested again, and celebrate their wins

    Assume there's a lot you don't know about your partner. Mel cites UCLA research finding that how you react to a partner's good news matters more to the bond than how you respond to bad news. Enthusiasm gives a lift, while downplaying it 'leaves a lasting chill.' She now cheers Chris on through his men's retreat, his master's in spiritual psychology and his death doula training.

  • 08

    Step three: plan fun, because it rarely happens spontaneously

    Mel told Chris in therapy that life had become too serious. Fun has to be planned, as it was when you were dating: movies, hikes, dance lessons, concerts, roller coasters, skinny dipping, dinner parties.

  • 09

    Steps four to six: swap roles, ask for what you need, assume good intent

    Mel's anxious habit of planning everything left Chris no room to lead and left her feeling everything was up to her. Ask out loud instead of quietly punishing, and ask what your partner needs. Assume they didn't mean the tone. If you can't even admit your partner is a good person at their core, she says that's your answer.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    'Is Chris okay?'

    After a barbecue, a close friend called Mel to say 'the light behind his eyes is gone' and that their usual magnetic connection was missing. Mel later learned Chris was struggling with depression. It came just before they started therapy in 2020.

  • 02

    'The Monument'

    In therapy Mel learned how isolated Chris had been as a latchkey kid with much older brothers: nobody showed up to his games and he was teased when he asked for things. His family nicknamed him 'the Monument' because he barely spoke for two years. It turned her annoyance at his quietness into a wish to support him.

  • 03

    Morning sex revealed on national TV

    On her daytime talk show, Chris said he prefers being intimate in the morning, which Mel hadn't known after 22 years of marriage.

  • 04

    The 'trip leader' and the Vegas ring

    Their 25th anniversary passed uncelebrated because things were so bad. For their 26th, Mel let Chris plan. He booked a getaway less than an hour away in southern Vermont and gave her new vows and a ring she'd tried on as a lark in Las Vegas, which he'd had a jeweller recreate. It was the first jewellery he'd chosen since her engagement ring.

  • 05

    Dead flowers on the counter

    Returning from week-long speaking trips, Mel would find the flowers she'd bought herself dead in the vase, which felt like nobody had thought of her. Once she asked Chris for $3 grocery-store tulips, he started bringing flowers every time he shopped.

  • 06

    Muir Woods with 30 minutes to spare

    With 90 minutes before a California business meeting, they detoured to Muir Woods at 4:15 p.m. under a looming rain cloud and had the redwoods to themselves. It felt like a Hobbit movie and reminded them to do more of that.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Talk to your partner, not about them

    Spend at least twice as much time talking with your spouse as you spend complaining to friends or family, and never vent about your partner to your kids. They aren't your therapist.

  • 02

    No money for therapy? Use free tools

    Try free online courses or a book or workbook you go through together. Individual therapy is valuable, but it's work on yourself, not on the marriage.

  • 03

    Support separate pursuits

    A partner who doesn't want to join your dude ranch trip or your Kilimanjaro climb isn't the problem. Mel broke her leg and tailbone being bucked off a horse on a dude ranch trip for her dad's 70th. Have your own friends and hobbies. The real problem is a partner who refuses to address issues in the relationship.