The Truth About Love: How to Find It, Keep It, and Let It Go With Jay Shetty | Mel Robbins Podcast
- Guest
- Jay Shetty
- Read time
- ~5 min
- Uploaded
- 2 Feb 2023
- Duration
- 1:11:54
- Views
- 698.1K
KEYPOINTS
- 01
Love has three parts: like, respect and commit
Jay Shetty's working definition of love is liking someone's personality, respecting their values, and being committed to helping them achieve their goals. Physical attraction is a given he takes for granted, not something he dismisses. He encourages couples and individuals to write their own definitions and rules. He also notes research that young people experience love mainly as a feeling, and that a more mature prefrontal cortex lets reasoning and self-control shape it.
- 02
'Liking' means wanting to spend 200 hours with someone
Shetty cites research that a casual friend takes about 40 hours together, a good friend about 100, and a great or best friend about 200 quality hours. So the test of liking someone's personality is whether you're curious and excited enough to want 200 hours with them.
- 03
Respect their values; don't demand they share them
Most relationships, Shetty argues, fall apart because one person tries to mold the other into valuing what they value as much as they do. That's unrealistic. His wife Radhi's top value is family, and his is purpose and service. During the recording she was in London with her grandmother, who had been in the hospital for two weeks. Neither made the other feel guilty, and he'd fly back the moment she needed him.
- 04
Support their goals, not the potential you see in them
Saying 'they could be so much more' is about you, not love. When everyone told Radhi, a vegan chef and food scientist, to open a restaurant, she felt pressure until they sat down and asked whether she actually wanted that. Her answer: maybe someday, not now. His key question: are you helping them to the next step in their journey, or in yours?
- 05
Rule one: learn to be alone, and treat solitude as strength
Citing the theologian Paul Tillich, Shetty notes that we talk constantly about loneliness, the weakness of being alone, but rarely about solitude, its strength. Use time alone to learn what you like. If you wait for someone else to prove you're lovable, you become unlovable the moment they change their mind. People who pour energy into lists of partner qualities often lose themselves in a partner's likes and dislikes within a few years.
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Entering a relationship out of fear of being alone backfires
Shetty says research shows three outcomes: you settle for less than you deserve, you become dependent and mold yourself to someone you see as out of your league, and you're afraid to leave because anything seems better than being alone.
- 07
Parents' 'gifts and gaps' become your map for love
If parents showed up for every recital, you may look for someone endlessly present. If they criticized you or compared you to a sibling, you may hope a partner fills that gap. That's why people keep dating the same type. Shetty's monk lesson: whatever you want from someone else, give it to yourself first, whether compliments, understanding or validation.
- 08
Four phases of love, and the 'contract' behind 'I love you'
The phases are attraction, dreams, disappointments and adapting, and trust. 'I love you' can mean 'forever' to one person and 'tonight' to another, yet we rarely check whether our contracts match. Early sparks, he notes, are excitement mixed with stress ('do they think I'm hot?'). As stress fades into comfort, people mistakenly think the spark has died.
- 09
Watch for the halo effect and the context effect
With the halo effect, we assign people qualities they haven't shown: attractive means trustworthy, smart means organized at home, one kind moment means kind always. With the context effect, studies suggest holding a warm drink on a date raises warm feelings, and weddings or romantic movies make people think 'this could be the one.' He also asks whether they respond at your pace or you're forcing it.
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Partnership vs. ownership: the four C's
Unresolved hurt shows up as comparison, criticism, complaining and control. 'No one in the history of comparison has ever changed because they were compared.' Control often looks like care, such as telling you what to wear or which friends are good influences. Ask whether it's for your growth or their convenience. Shetty admits he judged some of Radhi's longtime friends early on and realized it wasn't his place.
EXAMPLES
- 01
'She's out of your league'
At 11, bullied for being overweight and Indian, Shetty came to class late to find everyone had told the girl every boy liked that he alone had a crush on her. For a week, girls lined up behind the goal where he played goalkeeper and shouted 'she's out of your league.' As a teen he showed exaggerated passion just to hear he was the best. With an aloof father, the monks became his first male role models, and since monks don't validate you, he learned to validate himself.
- 02
Meeting Radhi at the temple
Six months before leaving to become a monk, Shetty showed a visitor around his temple. She asked him to meet her daughter; he introduced the daughter to his sister instead. The two women became close friends, and after the monastery his sister acted as wingwoman. He later learned Radhi's mother had prayed that day for someone like him. Six months into dating, he snapped back into old habits.
- 03
'Love me for this'
Fresh out of the monastery with 25,000 in debt and rejections from 40 companies, he tutored economics to pay for dates. As his career took off he kept holding up milestones for Radhi's approval, but she never loved him more for views or downloads. She praised how he handled challenges and criticism. That showed him she loved his essence, and it's why he calls a partner your 'guru': someone who reflects the truth back without judging.
- 04
Mel's realization about Chris
Listening to Shetty, Mel realized she'd been subconsciously steering Chris away from growing the men's retreat he'd run for six years, afraid it would make him too busy for family. She had never asked him what his goal was.
- 05
The escape room test
Early on, Shetty took Radhi to an escape room. He discovered he becomes intense and obnoxious about time ('we've got 55 minutes left!'), while she, a lateral thinker, pushed random things and opened the trap door. 'If your relationship starts like an interview, it will end like a rejection.'
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Reflect after every experience
After a project, an outing or time with a group, ask: Did I like it? What did or didn't I like? Was it discomfort or truly bad? You'd never return to a bad restaurant, but people keep going back to the same person.
- 02
Try the younger-self meditation, in a safe space
Picture yourself at 13, embrace that child, say what you needed to hear ('you are enough'), and ask what wisdom they have for you. Shetty warns it can be emotional, so follow it with journaling or a talk. Mel's 13-year-old self asked her to say it every day.
- 03
Slow down and see them in new settings
You can't control the hormones, but you can control the pace. See them weekly rather than daily, meet their friends, and take a class neither of you knows.