#1 Researcher: 7 Signs You May Have High Functioning Depression
- Guest
- Dr. Judith Joseph
- Read time
- ~5 min
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- 2 May 2024
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- 0:49:21
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- 199.7K
KEYPOINTS
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Many people with depression don't fit the standard checklist
Psychiatrist and researcher Dr. Judith Joseph says that under the DSM-5, someone with many symptoms of depression but no loss of functioning or obvious distress is often told to come back when things get worse. She calls that model 'broken'. It misses people before they reach crisis, turn to unhealthy coping, or break down physically. The term 'high-functioning depression' has been around for about five years; she didn't coin it, but she is researching it.
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High-functioning depression can look like being 'the rock'
These are people who care for their families, meet deadlines and collect praise, the ones others call the rock of the family. Yet they feel something is missing and don't feel much joy. Joseph says some never had words for sadness because of their culture, and others push through because trauma taught them not to feel.
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The 'joy thief' is anhedonia
Joseph calls anhedonia, a reduced ability to feel pleasure, a sneaky symptom that strongly correlates with depression, especially the high-functioning kind. It 'steals your joy in the middle of the night' until nothing excites you and everything feels 'meh'. Many people don't recognise it as depression because they picture someone crying in bed all day.
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Depression can look very different from person to person
Joseph's research looks at the different faces of depression. Men may show it as irritability, anger, checking out or 'knocking back a couple of beers'. Others stay constantly busy because that's the only way they know, such as children of immigrants raised with 'work, deliver and you'll be okay', or mothers who feel they have no choice.
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Depression and anxiety often go together
Mel would have labelled her bolt-out-of-bed, multitasking, wine-at-night days as anxiety. Joseph explains that restlessness is also a symptom of major depression, and many researchers see the two as different sides of the same coin. That's why treatments like SSRIs and cognitive behavioural therapy overlap. Anxiety tends to come with more physical symptoms and excessive worry.
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There are many possible contributors, and inflammation is getting more attention
Joseph stresses that these are correlations, not proven causes. Dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine patterns may differ in depressed brains. Twin studies point to genetic predisposition. Recent data links inflammation to depression, and with some estimates that 70–75% of people have had COVID-19, she says we don't yet know how that has affected brains. Back-to-back collective trauma and constant social media add to the picture.
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At work, it can look like control and a lost identity
People with high-functioning depression may believe nobody else can do the job right, tie their identity to their role, and have dropped hobbies like photography or art. Sleep isn't refreshing, appetite swings, concentration and energy dip, and they may over-deliver while denying distress. Joseph suggests some clinicians miss it because the patient looks like them.
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Scarcity trauma can be passed down
Joseph describes scarcity trauma: a history of going without, sometimes generations back through refugees, war survivors or farmers, that drives behaviour that doesn't make sense today. Examples include clothes left in the closet with tags on, hoarded expired food, being unable to throw things out, or overspending when money finally arrives. Emotional scarcity, growing up in a cold family focused on survival, works the same way.
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Naming a feeling helps take its power away
Joseph calls it affect labeling: naming what you feel calms the body, like turning on a light and seeing the noise was just a book falling. It isn't about diagnosing yourself; it's about bringing the problem out of your subconscious so you can see it separately from you. She says we teach children feelings charts but forget that adults need this too.
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Depression isn't a competition
Joseph gets pushback for the phrase 'high-functioning', but argues you should use the language people identify with, because 'you're not depressed enough' is invalidating. Mel agrees: getting through the day doesn't mean you feel better than someone who can't get out of bed.
EXAMPLES
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Chris Robbins' hidden depression
Mel's husband was sober, meditated daily, exercised, was close to their kids and ran a men's retreat, yet 'the light was off behind his eyes' for years. He thought it was midlife or falling testosterone. Mel says a brain scan by a doctor previously on the show found treatment-resistant depression (dysthymia), and the doctor said he usually saw brains like that after people had died. Chris resisted the label, believing it meant he was weak.
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A 'day in the life' from Joseph's TikTok
Waking before the alarm, full of angst; gulping coffee instead of eating; working through lunch; coming home too burnt out for family; doom-scrolling instead of playing with the kids. 'You're killing it at work, you're not letting anyone down, but you're letting yourself down.'
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Mel's opening quiz
Do you drink coffee instead of breakfast and eat lunch at your desk? Feel dread when the alarm goes off? Scroll mindlessly at night when you don't want to? Feel you can't take a day off? Tell yourself it's easier to do it yourself than ask for help? Mel says Joseph considers each of these a possible sign of high-functioning depression.
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Grandma's dim fridge
Mel's farming grandmother's fridge was always dimly lit and full of old food, because on a farm nothing was wasted. Through therapy, Mel saw she had absorbed the idea that being wasteful made her a bad person. Now she keeps her fridge nearly empty with bright bulbs, and she notes that doing things differently can feel like defying your whole family line.
OTHER RELEVANT
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Don't treat yourself as a burden
Joseph's top 'never': don't believe you're a burden. With patients, she scrolls through phone photos from 'high-functioning AF' times and asks whether those friends would really have minded hearing them out. Challenge the belief that you're only lovable when you're perfect.
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Acknowledge the 'little traumas' too
Standard trauma questionnaires miss things like being teased as a child for seeming gay, or arriving in a new country hungry with nothing. Recognising these helps explain how you see yourself.
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Gradually challenge scarcity habits
Cross-examine the thought 'I'm wasteful' like a lawyer: where's the evidence? Throw out one expired can or give one item to charity, and notice how it feels. This gradual approach is a form of exposure therapy within CBT.
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Check your symptoms and talk to a doctor
Joseph says her website has self-assessment scales for anhedonia and high-functioning depression. She encourages talking to your doctor even if therapy doesn't appeal to you. She is also researching mental health links to menopause, including brain fog and sleep problems.