How to Overcome Social Anxiety | Dr. Nick Epley
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- Dr. Nick Epley
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- ~5 min
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- 18 May 2026
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- 2:30:24
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KEYPOINTS
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We constantly 'mind read', and it's useful but error-prone
Epley, a behavioral scientist at the University of Chicago, explains that we infer thoughts, intentions and attitudes behind other people's behavior, and even behind animals, gods or the planet. The inference helps us explain what someone is doing and predict what they'll do next. It's better than not doing it, but it systematically misfires in predictable ways.
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With strangers, we use our own minds as the template
When we know nothing about someone, the main tool we have is ourselves: if I feel cold, I assume you do too. Egocentrism also means we overestimate how clearly we come across. We know what we meant, so we assume an email will be read the way we'd say it, and sarcasm or jokes land badly in text.
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Voice conveys a mind; text is mostly 'dead'
Speech happens as thought happens, so rate, pitch and intonation reveal enthusiasm, sadness, intent and sarcasm. In a study with Juliana Schroeder on the eve of the 2016 election, people who heard Trump or Clinton voters explain their choice rated them as more thoughtful, intelligent and rational than people who read the same words. The effect was strongest when they disagreed with the speaker. Yet most people say they'd rather write to seem smart because they can edit.
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People underestimate how much others want to connect
Across more than 30,000 participants in over 120 experiments, Epley's lab finds people consistently underestimate how positively others will respond when they reach out. If two strangers sit silently next to each other, each reads the other's silence as disinterest, which creates a shared but mistaken belief that nobody wants to talk.
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Extraversion strongly predicts happiness, and acting extraverted helps everyone
The correlation between daily positive affect and extraversion is about 0.5, comparable to the correlation between fathers' and sons' heights, and about 0.3 for life satisfaction. Ed Diener called it a foundational finding. Will Fleeson's lab studies and Sonja Lyubomirsky's two-week interventions found that acting more extraverted raised positive feelings regardless of baseline personality. Introverts, too, report feeling better with people than alone.
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Sociability is like exercise: a habit, not a fixed type
Epley thinks the difference between people who seek out connection and those who don't is largely the habits they've built. Avoiding people keeps you from developing the skills to read cues, gracefully exit 'sticky' conversations or spot when someone is busy. Those skills come from approaching.
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Brief exchanges matter more than we assume
Huberman admits he'd thought of small talk and manners as 'crackers', not nourishment. Both conclude that fist bumps, compliments and quick shared moments create a real sense of kinship. Epley's students hypothesize, though it is untested, that one good exchange with a stranger shifts how you feel about the whole group they belong to.
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Social anxiety persists because beliefs never get tested
Exposure works because you discover your predictions were wrong. If you never reach out, you never get that disconfirming evidence. Much social anxiety is a fear of seeming creepy or 'too sticky'. Epley's answer is calibration rather than avoidance: friendly is not the same as friends, and if someone doesn't call back, don't ping them a third time.
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Context and norms shape what counts as polite
Earbuds and phones signal 'don't bother me'. In the UK, and even more in Japan, staying out of strangers' business is itself politeness. Epley cautions that what looks like eroding manners may be people trying not to intrude. He treats a greeting as an invitation the other person can accept or decline.
EXAMPLES
- 01
Jia Jiang's 100 days of rejection
Trying to desensitize himself to rejection, Jiang made about 106 odd requests: Olympic-ring doughnuts at Krispy Kreme (an employee spent 15 minutes making them), planting a rose in a stranger's yard, co-piloting a plane. Epley's lab coded the videos and found he was accepted about 51 times and rejected about 48, with only around seven showing any negativity. Jiang's takeaway was that other people are far kinder than he expected.
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The underestimation-of-compliance effect
Frank Flynn (Stanford) and Vanessa Bohns (Cornell) found people overestimate how many others they'll need to ask before enough say yes. Epley adds that helpers also feel better than requesters expect. Asking someone to take your photo feels like a burden but usually makes them happier.
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Gustavo on the train
Epley sat beside a young man with earbuds and greeted him. The man took one earbud out, offered a fist bump, then proudly showed his binder from a culinary trade program. Epley left the 30-minute conversation feeling more hopeful about young people in general.
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The red glasses compliment
On his way to the train, Epley told a stranger her red glasses looked fabulous. She stopped, took them off and said she really needed that today, a small example of how much a passing compliment can mean.
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Data-driven courage to adopt
After a painful loss, Epley's wife asked whether he'd consider adopting a child with Down syndrome. He was full of doubt, then recognized he was making the same overly pessimistic forecast as his participants. He notes their resources and strong marriage made it feasible, and the family traveled to China to adopt.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Talk, don't type, when it matters
For apologies, delicate news or anything involving humor or sarcasm, call or speak in person. Text strips out the cues that show you're a thoughtful person with good intentions.
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Treat your predictions as hypotheses
Before skipping a conversation because 'they won't want to talk', remember that the data consistently show this guess is too pessimistic. Make small, low-cost overtures, like a greeting or a question about someone's day, and see what happens.
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Ask for help more often
Requests are granted more often than you expect, and helping feels good to the helper. Accept alternatives gracefully: when Jiang couldn't announce his love of Costco over the intercom, the manager took him to lunch instead.
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Calibrate eye contact and persistence
Keep your gaze moving rather than fixed. In Huberman's story, a well-liked college roommate unsettled people by staring until he was told to keep his eyes moving. Respect clear signals such as someone being on a call or not replying.