Harnessing Passion, Drive & Persistence for Lifelong Success | Tony Hawk
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KEYPOINTS
- 01
Love of the activity came first; there was no career to aspire to
Hawk found skateboarding around age 10 and quit Little League mid-season once he saw skaters 'flying on magic carpets' at Oasis skatepark in San Diego. He turned pro at 14, when first place paid about $150, and after a year and a half had $600 saved, which he spent on a moped. Huberman uses this to argue that excellence almost always rests on loving the thing itself, not on a goal of fame or money.
- 02
Drive and discipline outweigh natural talent
Hawk says he was 'gangly' and slamming constantly as a beginner, nobody's idea of a natural. He has watched naturally gifted skaters fail to use their gifts, and driven, sloppy-looking skaters like Andrew Reynolds, who tried every trick, become 'the boss'. He gives drive as much weight as talent, 'if not more'. Huberman adds that in science too, the people who keep showing up when others leave tend to win out.
- 03
New tricks come from combining pieces he has already mastered
Hawk does not 'throw caution to the wind'. He breaks a trick into parts he has done in other forms, such as the entry, the grind and the landing, then works on timing until they fit. At today's technical level, though, a make can come from a tiny unconscious adjustment, so some tricks, like his 360 shove-it to 5-0 fakie, he has landed only once and cannot reliably repeat.
- 04
Ideas arrive in the drowsy state before sleep and in mundane moments
Hawk sometimes wakes at night to write down a trick idea. He came up with the half-cab body varial to backside blunt for the X Games in Japan while falling asleep, made it twice alone on his ramp after weeks of preparation, and landed it on his last run. Huberman highlights this liminal state between wakefulness and sleep as fertile ground for ideas, and Hawk adds that showers and walks work too.
- 05
Dreams can track recovery, and REM paralysis explains 'can't move' dreams
Before his injury Hawk often dreamed he could not skate, as if the ramp were carpet. During recovery his dreams shifted to being able to do all his tricks again. Huberman explains that in REM sleep the brain is highly active while the body is paralyzed and cannot release adrenaline, which may be why people feel they want to move but cannot.
- 06
A late growth spurt changed his skating
Hawk was so small that at 16 police assumed he was 13, and he wore elbow pads as knee pads, inspired by a photo of Steve Caballero. He shot up around 17, gaining height and strength and suddenly going about eight feet out rather than four, while bowls 'looked smaller'. Huberman notes that a longer arc of puberty and late growth correlate with a longer life.
- 07
Ignoring medical advice turned a femur break into a non-union fracture
Hawk broke his femur on a low-speed 540, a trick he had done for nearly 40 years, and initially rushed back. Stepping off his board on a mini ramp, he felt the bone shift, then spent seven to eight months in denial, compensating by putting about 75% of his weight on his back foot. X-rays finally showed the bone had never joined and kept separating. A non-union specialist reoperated and ordered two months of no movement, and Hawk followed it.
- 08
Avoiding the party culture was a performance decision
Early skating culture defined itself against team sports, with drinking, smoking and fast food. Hawk stayed out of it because he watched peers 'party their skills away'. Training then meant Stacy Peralta buying spaghetti the night before a 1983 contest; today pros have trainers and sponsors pay for support. Hawk credits a doctor of physical therapy for getting him back after the injury.
- 09
Hard lessons, not early fame, made him financially prudent
His father co-signed on property at 17, but by 1991–92 the four-acre ramp property was draining him during skating's slowest years. He took equity out to start Birdhouse in 1992, sold the house, and lived on Taco Bell and Top Ramen while taking any demo or stunt-double job. He traces his shrewdness and punctuality to that period.
EXAMPLES
- 01
Turning down a $500,000 buyout on the video game
Pitches for a skate game were rejected; at Midway he was asked why anyone would buy a skateboarding video game. Activision later showed him a prototype built on the engine of a Bruce Willis game. He spent about 18 months testing builds, and around 1998, before release, he declined a half-million-dollar buyout of royalties. He calls letting it ride the best financial decision he ever made; the series ran to about 10 games.
- 02
Landing the 540 again with his wife as the only spectator
To get the trick back after surgery, Hawk stopped drinking, adjusted his diet, and spent sessions just finding the spin and landing zone. He had a heart-to-heart with his wife, who did not want to live through another injury. He did the trick head-high on purpose, because on his 14-foot ramp more air means more time to adjust.
- 03
The first backside varial
Alone at Oasis, Hawk landed the first backside varial below the coping. He says the feeling of creating something new is 'the buzz I've been chasing ever since'. Huberman calls it a chemical fingerprint of progress.
- 04
Frank Hawk's contest organizing
His father ran contests unpaid for kids who were 'kind of lost'. That included taking in a stranded 14-year-old Huberman around 1989; Huberman says the family's warmth showed him what a healthy family looked like.
- 05
Equal events changed women's skating
Hawk credits pioneers like Cara-Beth Burnside, Patti Hoffman and Elissa Steamer. The road to the Olympics required equal divisions, and Vans Park Series offered equal prize money. He names Lyn-Z Adams (Hawkins Pastrana) as the first woman to land a 540 on vert.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Be the expert on yourself while still obeying experts
Huberman's read of Hawk's recovery is to follow specialists on the non-negotiables, like two months of immobilization, while setting your own expectations for how fast you can return, rather than anchoring to average timelines.
- 02
Use a warm-up run as a daily diagnostic
Hawk admits he never stretched or meditated, but he always does a routine run of basic tricks to judge stiffness and decide what to adjust that day. Huberman compares this to a surgeon's checklist.
- 03
Make risk safer by choosing your environment
At 55 and taller and slower than before, Hawk avoids eight-foot pools with no landing zone and skates his big vert ramp, his 'happy place'. Going bigger can be the safer option when it buys time and space.
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Give kids their own scene
His son Riley felt the pressure of his father's shadow, drifted away, then found his own crew in high school and turned pro. Hawk now acts as chauffeur and filmer for his kids, and his Skatepark Project has helped fund nearly 1,000 public skateparks in underserved areas.