3 Surprising Reasons Why You Have No Childhood Memories ft. Dr. Nicole LePera | Mel Robbins Podcast

Guest
Dr. Nicole LePera
Read time
~5 min
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26 Jan 2023
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1:56:42
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220.5K
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KEYPOINTS

  • 01

    'At 32 I realized I was a child in an adult body'

    Dr. Nicole LePera's viral post described her life at 32: a PhD, a successful psychology practice, a committed partner, the city she wanted — and a numb, shame-filled lack of fulfillment. Her clients, too, reported getting more stuck and frustrated week after week despite insight. She concluded that stress- and trauma-based conditioning from childhood creates habits that keep people disconnected from themselves, their lives and their relationships.

  • 02

    Change starts with becoming conscious, then making new choices

    Her two-step model: first notice how patterned and automatic you are, which creates a little space; then make new choices outside old habits. Even realizing you feel stuck, numb or 'not alive' is the start of consciousness, she says. She adds that people rarely believe change is possible until they experience it.

  • 03

    Emotional immaturity is being unable to be with your emotions

    She defines it as the inability to feel, process, navigate and regulate emotions. It can look like shutting down — suppressing or repressing feelings — or like exploding, yelling and saying hurtful things, or turning the energy inward in self-harming ways. Mel's image: her emotional development stalled around eight or nine while her body kept growing; Dr. LePera pictures a child in a father's oversized suit.

  • 04

    It's usually inherited, which is a reason for compassion, not shame

    Without an emotionally attuned caregiver who could soothe them, children's nervous systems settle into survival mode, and those patterns persist for decades. Dr. LePera notes the emerging science of epigenetics suggests stress can affect later generations at a cellular level, and that the brain stays neuroplastic, so whenever you notice the pattern is when you can start changing it. She describes the causes of mental-health symptoms as holistic, including the gut's role in neurotransmitters.

  • 05

    Signs of an emotionally immature parent

    Unpredictability and explosiveness, where you're always waiting for the other shoe to drop; physical or emotional absence; parentification, where a child parents siblings or the parent; anxious, boundary-crossing helicopter parenting; or so many walls that there's no connection. Consistent patterns — not a single bad moment — push a child's nervous system into fight, flight, fawn or shutdown.

  • 06

    Little childhood memory can be a sign you weren't present

    Dr. LePera once feared a rare neurological condition and volunteered for a memory study; it turned out her whole family remembers little. Her explanation: if you dissociate to stay safe, you aren't present enough to encode recallable memories, and she says chronically high cortisol in childhood affects the hippocampus, a key memory region. Mel, who couldn't recall visiting her best friend Jodi at Central Michigan University, says hearing this ended her fear that something was wrong with her brain.

  • 07

    You don't need to remember trauma to heal it

    Her view is that you're 'a living memory' of your past: it shows up in reactivity, shutdown and how you relate to people. She defines trauma less by the size of the event than by how supported and safe you were when overwhelming things happened. Her line: childhood trauma doesn't come back as a feeling, it comes back as a reaction.

  • 08

    A dysregulated body can't relax, however much the mind wants peace

    Dr. LePera calls herself 'a hippie at heart' who craved rest yet couldn't sit still on a free Sunday. Tense muscles signal threat to the brain, the mind starts scanning for problems, and she'd end up nitpicking her partner. That's why her workbook starts with reconnecting to the body before exploring the stories you tell or your authentic self.

  • 09

    Healing often feels worse before it feels better

    New choices challenge a subconscious that perceives the unfamiliar as threat, and long-suppressed feelings surface. Feeling more, including discomfort, is often a sign you're healing, she says.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    Mel's postpartum depression and her daughter

    Mel shared that after a traumatic birth she had severe postpartum depression and was so heavily medicated she couldn't care for her daughter for the first eight weeks; at 29 or 30 she was also volatile and unpredictable. Her now-adult daughter, who says she doesn't feel alive, recalled that distress in therapy. Mel believes she passed on a family pattern of hypervigilance; her kids now tell her 'watch your tone' several times a week.

  • 02

    Dr. LePera's mother and the planner

    Her mother, who largely showed up for her academic wins and softball games, found her high-school planner with notes about drinking and run-ins with police, threw it at her head and collapsed on the bed saying she was having a heart attack. For a child already afraid her older parents would die, it confirmed that causing stress could cause harm. Her mother's usual response was the silent treatment, including about a month and a half after discovering she was gay.

  • 03

    The tech glitch both women felt in their bodies

    When an echo delayed the recording, Mel felt herself sensing her team's nerves and fearing her guest's displeasure — the same reaction she had at eight. Dr. LePera, tired and anxious to be perfect, noticed a childlike wish that the problems would cancel the interview so she could disappear. Both caught it, which they say is the point of practice.

  • 04

    Daggers out, demanding a hug

    Dr. LePera describes walling herself off in her bedroom, then blaming partners for not coming in — like holding out a hand with daggers and demanding an embrace. She left relationships for lack of closeness without seeing that she never shared her real feelings. Her partner Lolly, who remembers everything, often recounts outings she can't recall.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Start with one daily 'consciousness check-in'

    Anchor it to a phone alarm (say 2 p.m.), brushing your teeth or your morning coffee. When it comes, notice without judgment where your attention was, then 'hook' it to your breath, your five senses or the feeling of your body supported by a chair or the ground. Keep that one small promise for a couple of weeks before adding more.

  • 02

    Write a 'future self' intention each morning

    Dr. LePera journals her intention for the day to counter the autopilot that starts the moment you wake; a sticky note in the bathroom works too.

  • 03

    Rethink the silent treatment and the 'good boy' script

    Repeated silence teaches children that part of them is shameful, often leaving adults panicking whenever someone seems distant. Boys, she notes, often learn that crying or anger is weak; anger is a natural signal of violated limits, and suppressing it can lead to explosions later.