Simple Steps To Losing Weight & Feeling Better: The Science of Lifting Weights | Mel Robbins Podcast

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Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
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~5 min
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30 Oct 2023
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1:15:29
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KEYPOINTS

  • 01

    Skeletal muscle is an organ, not a look

    Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, a physician fellowship-trained in nutritional science and geriatrics, says skeletal muscle makes up about 40% of body weight and should be treated as the 'organ of longevity.' Mel admits she had only ever judged muscle by whether it showed.

  • 02

    Contracting muscle releases signaling molecules and clears blood sugar

    When you contract muscle, even in a bicep curl or climbing stairs, Lyon says it secretes myokines that travel through the body and support bone health, brain health and nutrient use. Working muscle also pulls glucose out of the bloodstream into the cells, which is why she ties muscle so tightly to insulin resistance and the obesity epidemic.

  • 03

    Lyon's reframe: people are under-muscled, not just overfat

    Running a weight-management clinic while also caring for geriatric and Alzheimer's patients, Lyon concluded that the common thread was unhealthy muscle rather than excess fat. She argues that conditions like cardiovascular disease, hypertension and Alzheimer's are in large part 'diseases of skeletal muscle' that begin decades earlier, while acknowledging obesity itself is very complex. If 50 years of fighting fat hasn't worked, she says, we may be fixing the wrong problem. She cites research showing 'healthy' sedentary 18-year-olds already had signs of unhealthy muscle.

  • 04

    Aim to gain muscle instead of losing pounds

    Chasing weight loss through repeated diets strips away muscle, and it gets harder to rebuild as you age. Lyon finds the 'what I have to lose' framing demotivating and suggests targets like putting on five pounds of muscle. She calls muscle the one currency of health you cannot buy or sell, only earn, and says earning it builds confidence and a can-do attitude. Her line: you can't exercise your liver, but you can exercise muscle.

  • 05

    Protein helps with fullness and is hard to overeat

    Protein is made of 20 amino acids, which Lyon compares to the grains of sand in a sandcastle. Her hunger test: sit down with a chicken breast instead of a bag of chips. Because protein is essential, she says it's hard to gain fat eating a lot of it.

  • 06

    Target about 1 gram of protein per pound of ideal body weight

    Lyon says the average woman eats roughly 60 to 68 grams a day. For Mel, at an ideal body weight of 138 pounds, she prescribes at least 100 grams and up to 120 to 130 grams. Mel's honest reaction is fear of becoming a 'Weeble Wobble.' Lyon answers that 100 grams is only about 400 calories, that up to around 20% of that energy can go into digesting it, and that overfeeding studies show body composition improving. She adds that calories still have to be controlled.

  • 07

    Older muscle gets worse at sensing protein, but more protein compensates

    Muscle is a nutrient-sensing organ, and that sensitivity drops with age. That shows up as sarcopenia, or frailty. Lyon says raising protein intake can make older muscle respond more like muscle in your 20s. She also calls healthy muscle your 'metabolic sink' for blood sugar and triglycerides, and your reserve during illness. She notes that cancer patients often die of cachexia, a state that wastes muscle.

  • 08

    Resistance training is the one non-negotiable form of exercise

    Lyon says all movement helps, but for muscle health resistance training is non-negotiable: any movement against a load, whether body weight, push-ups, bands, machines or free weights. Yoga and Pilates are a fine starting point but not ideal over time. The general guideline is 150 minutes of moderate-to-vigorous activity a week. Her minimum is two days of full-body lifting built on multi-joint moves, such as a machine squat or leg press for beginners.

  • 09

    Train to real fatigue; heavy weights are optional

    Lyon used to believe women had to lift heavy, and she still prefers it, but says the evidence suggests what matters is genuinely taxing the muscle: not being on your phone, and working until you can't do another rep. Some evidence or speculation suggests women may need more volume, but she warns against getting lost in the weeds. Beginners improve fastest. Expect visible change in about 6 to 8 weeks, though energy, blood sugar and triglyceride markers respond right away.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    'Betty,' the patient who sparked muscle-centric medicine

    Lyon describes a woman in her mid-50s, a mother of three, who had been told for years to lose the same 10 to 20 pounds she gained after her first baby. Each round of cutting calories and adding cardio destroyed more of her muscle. Seeing this pattern across many patients led Lyon to conclude the problem was being under-muscled.

  • 02

    The postmenopausal breakfast study

    Lyon describes research where both groups of postmenopausal women ate 1,600 calories a day. One group's first meal had about 40 grams of protein. The other had a typical breakfast she recalls as roughly 50 grams of carbs and 13 grams of protein. The protein group had better body composition, even though calories were identical.

  • 03

    Beef patty vs. six cups of quinoa

    To get about 2.5 grams of leucine, the amino acid that switches on muscle building, you need 3 to 4 ounces of lean beef or roughly six cups of quinoa. Lyon jokes that the quinoa route is 'carbicide.' Vegans and vegetarians can use blended plant protein powders, which are balanced for amino acids. Someone eating only whole plant foods may need about 35% more total protein.

  • 04

    Mel's collagen surprise

    Mel had been counting collagen in her smoothie as another 10 to 20 grams of protein. Lyon says collagen scores essentially zero for muscle health. It may be good for hair and nails, but it shouldn't count toward your protein target.

  • 05

    Vicki's workaholic 24-year-old daughter

    A mother writes in about her perfectionist, anxious daughter, who has gained about 25 pounds, sleeps little and pushes back on health advice. Lyon's suggestion is to frame training around the daughter's own goal of success, so the discipline she already shows at work turns into discipline about her health. Mel adds that helping caregivers take care of themselves also helps their kids.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Lyon's three-meal protein template

    First meal: 30 to 50 grams of protein (a whey or pea shake is fine) with no more than about 30 grams of carbs. Middle meal: a smaller one, around 20 grams of protein and 20 grams of carbs, such as three eggs. Last meal: another 30 to 50 grams before the overnight fast. She calls these broad generalizations, not exact rules.

  • 02

    A 20-minute weekly interval session

    Lyon adds one high-intensity session a week for women. That means all-out efforts of 45 seconds to a minute on an Assault bike or rower, or doing as many air squats as you can, followed by rest. Repeat for about 20 minutes. With true 80 to 90% effort, she says even a few minutes can count.

  • 03

    'Muscle magic' snacks during the day

    Do 10 to 20 air squats every hour, stand at your desk, take brisk walks to the bathroom or water fountain about 10 times a day, and keep a resistance band at your desk for quick sets of 10. Lyon says 1-pound wrist weights help, though they aren't optimal.

  • 04

    Menopause belly is not inevitable

    Lyon pushes back on the idea that every woman gains about 30 pounds at menopause. Shifting hormones affect body composition, partly because women tend to move less. Resistance training against an external load plus enough protein is how she says midlife women can manage it.