World Leading Psychologist: How to Master Your Emotions & Deal With Negative People
- Guest
- Dr. Susan David
- Read time
- ~5 min
- Uploaded
- 8 Jul 2024
- Duration
- 1:05:00
- Views
- 171.9K
KEYPOINTS
- 01
Many people feel 'untethered,' and Dr. David says the rise is real
Mel opens with herself glaring at a woman unloading potatoes one at a time at the grocery store. Psychologist Dr. Susan David says the pandemic, war and rapid change have left many people untethered from themselves. She says research shows a huge increase in depression, anxiety, burnout and lashing out. Because no one teaches the science of handling emotions at school or work, a world that feels out of control makes people feel out of control too.
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Stop 'hustling' with yourself over what you're allowed to feel
David says we hustle internally: Should I feel this? Am I allowed? If I accept myself, can I still want more? That fight cuts us off from our values. Her image is a gymnast who adjusts to the crowd and the music because of a strong inner core. Emotional agility is about building that core.
- 03
Emotions are data, not directives
Emotions evolved to help us adapt. David rejects the pop-psychology split into positive and negative, and the old idea that emotions are weak or feminine. Thoughts like 'I'm a fraud' and stories written on our 'mental chalkboards' at age five are normal. Feeling something doesn't mean you have to act on it. Meeting it with compassion and curiosity gives you the distance to choose who you want to be.
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Invalidating a child's feelings teaches 'display rules'
Display rules are a family's unspoken rules about which emotions are allowed. If a child is told, even subtly, not to be upset, they learn 'sadness has no place here' and turn away from themselves. Kids learn to regulate by feeling sadness and then noticing it pass, so allowing every emotion is 'the core work of parenting.' David links people-pleasing to the same rules: learning as a child which feelings risked a caregiver's love.
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Get more precise than 'stressed'
'Stressed' gives your body nothing to work with. Disappointed, unsupported, unseen and bored each point to a different cause. Precise labeling builds what psychologists call readiness potential, pushing you toward a fix: if you're bored, what would make you not bored? David says children as young as two or three with more emotional granularity do better 10, 20 and 30 years later.
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Avoid both bottling and brooding
Bottling means suppressing feelings: Netflix as a default, forced positivity, rushing to fix. When leaders tell struggling staff 'everything will be fine,' David calls it 'denial wrapped up in rainbows and sparkles.' Brooding means getting stuck in the feeling. Co-brooding, a big shared moan, makes friends feel closer but, she says, worsens the long-term relationship with the person complained about, and brooding predicts longer-term depression and anxiety.
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'I'm noticing that I feel sad' instead of 'I am sad'
'I am sad' or 'I'm a bad parent' makes you the cloud, all of you defined by one state. Saying 'I'm noticing a story that I needed to be a perfect parent' treats thoughts, emotions and stories as parts of you, alongside your wisdom and values. In her words, you are 'the whole damn sky.' Gentle acceptance, which she distinguishes from passive resignation, comes first.
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Separating from a loved one's pain means boundaries, not detachment
Parents tend to be 'only as happy as your most unhappy child.' Mel admits that when her kids' anxiety or her husband's depression comes up, she rushes in to fix things, then pours a drink. David's three-step boundary: name the need ('I can see you need me right now'), empathize, then say what you can and can't do ('I'm cooking; can we talk in an hour?'). You stay compassionate but don't let their anxiety knock you both off balance.
- 09
Behind passive-aggression is usually an unmet need
Emotions are signposts: loneliness points to a need for connection, boredom to growth, anger to fairness or a crossed value. Reacting to a passive-aggressive text by calling someone toxic, which David links to the fundamental attribution error, escalates things. Asking what the emotion is for keeps the relationship 'clean.'
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Discomfort is the price of admission to a meaningful life
David says solving, fixing and controlling are part of the problem: we swap phones, cut off friends and try to replace hard thoughts with positive ones. Never having your heart broken is 'a dead person's goal.' Careers, relationships and families all come with stress. The skills are compassion, curiosity and courage.
EXAMPLES
- 01
The stolen book title
Years ago, a far more famous professor asked David at a conference what she was working on. Six months later, while she sat in a Starbucks, he left a voicemail asking if she minded him using her concept as his book title, which was already on pre-sale on Amazon. She called her husband, a physician, who said he had a patient on the table for an emergency procedure and hung up. She resolved not to take his call back, which she offers as a model of how not to do it.
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'It's not okay, your child is in pain'
When her newborn screamed during shots, David kept saying 'It's okay.' A nurse gently told her it wasn't okay, her child was in pain, though it would be okay. Despite her PhD, she had invalidated him.
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Hands on heart: 'It's hard to human right now'
David's quick grounding practice, which she uses with doctors about to give bad news, is to put your hands on your chest, feel your feet on the floor and say, 'It's hard to human right now.' She contrasts it with telling yourself you should just be grateful.
- 04
'Thanks a lot for inviting me'
A friend of Mel's held a small birthday dinner and got a passive-aggressive text from someone left out. Mel gets similar ones ('I see you're in Boston, thanks for calling'). David reads the text as asking 'Do I matter? Am I still part of us?' Mel's reframed reply: 'I can see you're upset; let's talk tomorrow, I don't want you to feel that way.'
- 05
'Suzy, we all die. It's normal to be scared'
At five, David crawled into her parents' bed night after night begging them to promise they'd never die. Her father didn't brush it off. He told her everyone dies and it's normal to be scared. He died of cancer when she was 15. Her lesson from him: courage isn't the absence of fear, it's 'fear walking.'
OTHER RELEVANT
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When someone erupts, be present instead of fixing
David says simple presence, not jostling, distracting or reasoning with someone mid-meltdown, de-escalates difficult emotions. Respond with your feet on the ground rather than reacting.
- 02
Get specific about the feeling behind resentment
For a listener angry that her brother-in-law is dating her best friend, David says skip forced happiness and name the real feeling: loss, or a sense of an interloper. Mel adds that territorial feelings often come from insecurity, and David's 'keep your eyes on your own work' applies.
- 03
Vent less, label more
Before sending a string of angry texts, notice that venting often comes from not tolerating your own feelings. Name the emotion, ask what need it points to, then decide on a response that fits your values.