How to Get Freedom From Self-Doubt with Lewis Howes | The Mel Robbins Podcast

Guest
Lewis Howes
Read time
~5 min
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2 Mar 2023
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1:18:24
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KEYPOINTS

  • 01

    Insecurity at school shaped how Lewis showed up

    Lewis Howes, host of The School of Greatness and author of The Greatness Mindset, was ranked in the bottom four of his class all through high school. He had a second-grade reading level in eighth grade, was in special-needs classes, cheated on tests to pass, and took seven years to finish college. He hid in the restroom to avoid reading aloud. As a young networker from 25 to 30, he simply asked people questions, and they called him the most interesting guy in the room.

  • 02

    Losing your backup plan can push you forward

    A year before his injury, his father suffered a traumatic brain injury in a car accident and spent three months in a coma. He survived another 17 years but was "physically alive but emotionally dead." He had to sell the insurance business Lewis could have taken over. Lewis calls losing that safety net, along with his own injury, the catalyst for building something himself.

  • 03

    Ego can get results but leaves you feeling alone

    Lewis played 14 Arena Football games with a broken wrist so he'd have game film for the NFL, which ground down a bone. He frames that "nothing can hurt me" toughness as ego, not greatness: it delivers some results but leaves you alone inside.

  • 04

    Success without self-acceptance never feels like enough

    Before 30 he was accomplishing and accumulating, but nothing felt enough because he didn't feel enough. He describes "I'll prove them wrong" as the second most powerful fuel, after anger and not-enoughness, and says it is exhausting. He reached big sports goals after 10–15 years and felt angry afterwards. He now separates success (about me) from greatness (about we).

  • 05

    Healing means your nervous system stays calm amid chaos

    He used to feel tightness in his chest, throat and stomach, lie awake ruminating for an hour and a half, and react from wounds he either didn't recognise or defended with "this is who I am." Healing doesn't mean never being triggered. It means noticing faster and responding from integrated lessons, not old wounds.

  • 06

    Accepting the thing you hate makes you better at it

    Lewis and Mel both have dyslexia. He used to hate himself for stumbling while reading. Now he tells himself "you've got this" when he stutters or has to redo a sentence, and he finds he reads more smoothly and saves time. Mel invites listeners to apply this to whatever they beat themselves up about.

  • 07

    Saying shame out loud can bring people closer

    Lewis believed that if anyone knew he had been sexually abused, no one would ever love him. Hiding it felt like a draining double life. When he finally told people, it made them trust and respect him more. Mel shares her own buried memory from fourth grade, which came back during a seminar, and cites figures of one in four women and one in six men experiencing sexual abuse. Speaking it, she says, is a form of acceptance.

  • 08

    Stop abandoning yourself to buy peace

    His biggest block in relationships was giving in whenever a partner was upset, coming home early or skipping trips, to escape uncomfortable emotions. Years of that led to losing himself and building resentment. Mel says many men struggle with this because they were never taught to handle hard emotions except by defending or shutting down, and compares him to her husband Chris. Lewis now states his values upfront and won't give up who he is to please one person.

  • 09

    Healing is a journey of processing and integrating

    Speaking up was only the start of ten years of different approaches. "The next step is integrating the healing, which is where all the work is." Without continued integration, he says, old pain resurfaces.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    On his sister's couch, 2007–08

    At about 23, after bone was taken from his hip to rebuild his wrist (20 staples, six weeks bent over), he wore a cast from shoulder to fingers for six months instead of three. It took about a year and a half to straighten his arm. Without a degree during the 2008 crash, he felt "financially, physically, emotionally and spiritually broken." One inner voice kept saying "keep going."

  • 02

    A pickup basketball fight

    At 29, he "turned into the Incredible Hulk" after being headbutted in a friendly game in LA. A friend said he wouldn't play with him anymore. At home he looked in the mirror and asked, "Who are you?" He realised he had too much to lose to let his wounds control him.

  • 03

    Standing up on day three of a workshop

    At a five-day leadership workshop near LAX, he walked to the front, staring at the carpet, and described being abused at five by his babysitter's son. Afterwards, sobbing in the alley, a man in his late 50s told him, "You're my hero." He had been abused at 11, had kept it from his wife of 20-plus years, and now felt able to tell her. Other men followed with their own stories.

  • 04

    The 405 traffic jam that started a podcast

    Stuck in traffic around 2012, after selling his LinkedIn-training business, going through a breakup and the fight, he called Pat Flynn and Derek Halpern about podcasting. They warned him that "greatness" was too broad. He committed to one episode a week for a year as an experiment, with no pressure to make money and about two years of savings from living on a $495-a-month apartment and trains.

  • 05

    Five months of intensive emotional coaching

    Two years before this conversation, he did weekly sessions, sometimes five or six hours on Saturdays, with the stated intention of "peace, clarity and freedom." His coach's breakthrough line was "You're a free man." Having watched both trapped and emotionally free men during four and a half years of prison visits to his brother, he saw he was "trapped emotionally but free physically." A recurring ball of pain in his chest dissolved, and a month or two later he met his partner, Martha.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Hold on to the voice that says "keep going"

    Even if you hear it for only a second a day, Lewis credits that voice with getting him through decades of feeling unlovable, including childhood years of saying "I wish I was dead," which he says were not actual suicidal intent.

  • 02

    Pick a mission that fits your season

    On the couch, his mission was simply earning enough to get off it. Once you're safe, think bigger and include others. He learned in a workshop that you don't win unless everyone around you wins.

  • 03

    Experiment before going all in

    Mel highlights his approach: give yourself a year-long experiment, take the pressure of money off where you can, and improve with each attempt. His first episodes were about winning; his voice developed through practice.

  • 04

    Consider an emotional coach

    People hire business, career and health coaches but rarely invest in emotional skills, which Lewis calls the game most of us never master. Mel adds that "when you put all your energy into keeping peace with others, you create a war inside yourself."