The Surprising Psychology Behind the Secrets Everyone Keeps | The Mel Robbins Podcast
- Guest
- Dr. Michael Slepian
- Read time
- ~5 min
- Uploaded
- 31 Aug 2023
- Duration
- 1:12:53
- Views
- 27.3K
KEYPOINTS
- 01
The average person keeps 13 secrets
Slepian, a psychologist at Columbia Business School and author of The Secret Life of Secrets, first asked a couple of thousand people what secret they were keeping. From their answers he built 38 categories, then gave the list to about 50,000 people. On average, people had 13 categories of secrets at any one time, 97% had at least one, and 92% of open-ended secrets fit the list. Mel's summary is that about five are secrets people have never told anyone.
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The most common secrets
Top of the list are a significant lie, romantic desire, finances and sexual behaviour. Next come "extra-relational thoughts" (romantic thoughts about someone other than your partner), family secrets, secret ambitions, dissatisfaction with your social life or body, mental health, and broken trust. Mel says the hundreds of secrets her Instagram followers sent all fit his categories.
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A secret starts with intending to withhold
Slepian defines secrecy as the intent to keep information from one or more people, not the act of hiding it. Most secrets rarely come up in conversation, but they exist before and after those moments. A traveller who cheats once has a secret the moment they decide "I can't tell my partner." A small example: stepping away from the Target announcements so your boss doesn't realise you're not at your desk.
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Living with a secret is harder than hiding it
Because people can't read your mind, concealing a secret in conversation is relatively easy. The harm comes from thinking about it alone, doubting your choice, and replaying feelings of shame, isolation and inauthenticity. On your own, you never get the perspective from others that could soften an overly negative view.
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Secrets can make the world feel heavier
His early research followed up on the idea of being "weighed down" by a secret. People thinking about a significant secret judged hills as steeper and distances as longer, in the same way that tired or burdened people do, as if they had fewer resources to deal with what lay ahead.
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Secret versus private
Things that simply never come up, such as your sex life with family, are private. A specific experience you would actively hold back if it became relevant is a secret. Mel notes that "secret" tends to carry shame, while "private" feels like being in control.
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Shame says "I'm bad"; guilt says "I did something bad"
Shame is hard to change because it feels like who you are. Guilt focuses on behaviour, which motivates you to do better. Your past doesn't dictate your future. Mel's version: "You're a good person who did a bad thing." She applies it to cheating on boyfriends in college and law school: a good person with crushing anxiety, coping self-destructively.
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Keep the door open for kids to confess
Children keep secrets as soon as they realise their thoughts are private. The cookie-crumb fibs of three-year-olds are normal. The danger is later, when shame or bullying stays hidden. If confessing leads to an angry outburst, kids learn to keep things to themselves. Mel wants her kids' first thought in trouble to be "I have to call my mom, she'll help," and she saves disappointment for later conversations.
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Family secrets teach children that hiding solves problems
Slepian warns that this can grow into a habit of not asking for help. Mel goes further, calling it emotional abuse when parents make kids keep secrets or pull them into marriage conflicts, because it teaches them that love means loyalty and obedience.
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Before revealing, ask why
There's no undo button. Ask whether you're telling someone because you can't bear carrying it alone, or because they need or would want to know. If you're unsure, talk to a third party first. He also finds that the secrets we think about most are the ones that harm us most.
EXAMPLES
- 01
The midnight call that started it all
About ten years earlier, after a long day interviewing for a job at Columbia by presenting his new research on secrecy, Slepian's dad called around midnight to say he wasn't his biological father. Slepian and his brother were donor-conceived, from different donors, and his parents had made a pact never to tell them. The truth was fine for him; the secrecy was what hurt. Years later, interviewing his parents for his book, he learned his mother let it slip partly because she had been reading his research on how secrets harm people.
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What listeners confessed
Examples included compulsive shopping and binge eating, desperate unhappiness in a marriage, a high-interest loan hidden from a partner, an affair with an employee that led to moving away, falling in love with someone other than a husband with nothing having happened, not graduating from high school, and appearing to thrive after divorce while doing worse than ever.
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"I didn't do well in college"
A friend of Slepian's suddenly told him this at a party, deciding it didn't need to be a secret anymore. It changed nothing between them. New information, even surprising information, is a drop in the bucket of a shared history.
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A grandmother's fear
His deepest regret is not asking questions when he first found out. Years later he learned his paternal grandmother had pushed hardest for secrecy, fearing the boys would feel less part of the family. Knowing actually made those relationships more meaningful, and he wishes he could have told her.
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Role-playing the party confession
Playing a high school junior calling from a party the police broke up, Mel asked what a parent should say. Slepian: "Let me help you. This is something we can get through together. I'm upset you weren't honest, but I'm glad you brought this to me." Mel said she felt her shoulders drop.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Raise suspicions without accusing
With a partner, start with something like: "I want us to be able to bring anything to each other," then speak about yourself: "I'm feeling insecure about how close you are with so-and-so." With friends who leave you out, say you're open to talking about it.
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Use your "coping compass"
Point yourself to the most helpful available support. Choose emotional support if you need to be heard, or an assertive friend if you need a push to act. Don't shift the burden onto someone it would compromise, such as your partner's best friend. Sometimes the best person is whoever told you the secret.
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Ask two closeness questions
From Mandy Len Catron's New York Times essay: "What is your biggest regret?" and "What is your hardest memory?" Mel and Slepian both answered. His was rereading old emails and seeing he had been a terrible partner at the end of a five-year relationship. Hers was a breakup after her boyfriend's father died by suicide.