The One Tool to Transform Your Relationships: The Let Them Theory
- Guest
- Sawyer Robbins
- Read time
- ~5 min
- Uploaded
- 23 Dec 2024
- Duration
- 1:36:01
- Views
- 428.9K
KEYPOINTS
- 01
Many close relationships have an 'invisible distance'
Mel describes a gap that builds between people who love each other, through passive-aggressive comments, small hurts you try to let go, and old resentments, like 'death by a thousand cuts.' From the outside, she and her oldest daughter Sawyer, 25, looked close. They texted, saw each other and took trips together. But underneath, Sawyer felt she wasn't a priority, and Mel felt Sawyer would never let her in.
- 02
Sawyer's side: her mom was gone, and when home, talking about work
In Sawyer's middle and high school years, Mel was on the road up to about 200 days a year. Sawyer grew closer to her dad, Kendall and Oakley. She felt Mel's attention went to work or to Kendall's singing career, and she felt jealous for lacking a 'natural talent' that connected her to her mom and sister. Strangers kept introducing her as 'Kendall's sister' or 'Mel Robbins's daughter,' sometimes asking her for Mel's email. She started blaming Mel for the fans who were taking her mom away.
- 03
Mel owns it without excuses
Mel explains she was consumed by fear over the family's debt and spent nearly a decade chasing income. She calls it her responsibility as the parent to make a child feel seen and prioritized, and to be calm rather than taking her stress out on the family. She also notes a common pattern: the oldest child often becomes responsible and stoic, so parents worry about them less, and she says that's still the parent's job to notice.
- 04
Once you've decided someone doesn't care, everything confirms it
Shopping trips and showing up to games didn't get through, because Sawyer had already decided her mom didn't care, and her 'force field' reinterpreted everything. Sawyer admits she liked being mad at Mel, because anger, tears or a crisis were the only times she got her mom's full attention, phone down. Mel says resentment can become a substitute for the love you actually want.
- 05
The Let Them Theory has two steps, and Sawyer created the second
'Let them' means you stop trying to control other people and let them be who they are. 'Let me' means turning to what you control: what you think, say and do, and how you handle your emotions. Mel defines responsibility as 'the ability to respond.' She credits the second step entirely to Sawyer's research.
- 06
Drop the rope in the tug-of-war
Mel's image is two people pulling up to every conversation with a U-Haul full of baggage, each grabbing a rope and pulling. The fastest way to end it is to drop the rope. Expect the other person to push back, for example with 'Is this therapy-speak?', because they don't know the new dynamic yet. Sawyer says that when she started tugging and Mel let go, she'd 'fall down' and realize her mom just wasn't playing anymore. 'It takes two.'
- 07
You don't need the other person's participation to shift the dynamic
Mel says your own calmer, more mature behavior changes the dynamic, and people only change when they decide to. She's careful to add that 'Let them' doesn't change things on its own. It creates the space for change, and over time the other person shows how far they can meet you.
- 08
Step into their shoes
Using a tool she calls 'frame of reference,' learned from her friend Lisa Bilyeu, Mel suggests asking 'I wonder what it was like for them?' instead of 'I don't understand why they're like this.' She tells a parent upset that their kids were angry about their vote to ask why the kids might feel that way. She quotes Dr. Ablon: 'people do well when they can.'
- 09
Two things can be true at once
If family members are disappointed you're skipping a holiday, Mel says that means they love you. It doesn't mean you have to change your plans. Someone can be disappointed in you and still love you, and two people can be wired completely differently and still have room for each other.
EXAMPLES
- 01
The 27-hour research project
After backpacking solo through seven countries in Asia for four months, Sawyer came home broke to Vermont and cried daily, while insisting she'd never work for her mom. Mel offered her about $40 an hour to analyze the comments on her viral Let Them post and podcast episode, which Mel says became the sixth most-shared episode on Apple Podcasts that year. Mel expected a few pages in two weeks. Within 27 hours, Sawyer delivered a 36-page color-coded analysis with a two-page summary.
- 02
The 10% Sawyer warned about
Sawyer told Mel she couldn't write the book yet. About 90% of comments were glowing, but around 10% said things like 'I'm saying let them and I'm lonely,' or 'I'm the only one in my family who makes the effort.' A book that made people lonely needed a second part, and that became 'let me.' Mel says that holding the report, she finally understood how Sawyer's 'supercomputer' brain works and why she's so hard on herself.
- 03
Eleven manuscripts in eight months
Sawyer insisted on being a part-time contractor, which Mel praises as a healthy boundary. They scrapped and rewrote the book from scratch 11 times and finished in eight months instead of the usual two years. A typical day ran from morning work to midday hanger to an afternoon blowup, tears, a hug, and a glass of wine either way. They said 'let them' to each other constantly.
- 04
Box jumpers and box steppers
Mel calls Sawyer and Chris 'box steppers' who move logically from A to B to C, and herself a 'box jumper' who can see the destination but can't map the route. Much of their friction came from each wishing the other thought the same way. As project manager, Sawyer learned to say 'let her blow it up, it's her name on the cover.'
- 05
Mel's mother at 19
Mel says her relationship with her own mom changed once she pictured her at 19 in Kansas City with a newborn, working nights at the IRS while Mel's dad started medical school, far from family.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Ask what you actually want
If your story is 'my sister doesn't care' or 'I'm invisible in my family,' Mel's question is whether this is how you want it to stay. If not, you're the only person who can start changing it.
- 02
Use 'Let me' to choose between stepping in and giving space
When Sawyer seems intense or closed off, Mel says 'let them,' then decides whether to move toward her or give space. She tries to respect her as an adult going through her own challenges instead of mothering or smothering her.
- 03
Look for the side of someone you've never seen
Mel would never have discovered Sawyer's gifts for research, digital marketing and project management without working together. She encourages listeners to remember that the people they think they know best may have whole sides they've never seen.