209 ‒ Medical mistakes, patient safety, and the RaDonda Vaught case | The Peter Attia Drive Podcast
- Guest
- Marty Makary
- Read time
- ~5 min
- Uploaded
- 6 Jun 2022
- Duration
- 1:45:47
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- 18.7K
KEYPOINTS
- 01
Patient safety has moved from blaming individuals to fixing systems.
Makary, a Johns Hopkins surgeon and public-health professor, says the field used to ask who messed up. It now asks how the hospital could be designed differently, for example by moving the NICU closer to labor and delivery, or holding an elevator for the trauma team. He traces early catalysts to the 1984 Libby Zion case, which led New York to limit exhausted residents and eventually to the 80-hour work week. The Institute of Medicine's 1999 report estimated 44,000–98,000 US deaths a year from medical care itself.
- 02
Medical error may be the third leading cause of death, though the estimate is debated.
Makary's Hopkins review pooled existing studies and found a median of about 250,000 deaths a year. That would rank behind heart disease and cancer, ahead of stroke. One co-author argued the true number is higher because charts miss many errors. Attia pushes back that the studies counted any error that hastened a death, including in patients 'at the edge of the cliff.' Makary concedes it isn't perfect. A survey found a third of doctors believed it, a third didn't and a third weren't sure. As Don Berwick put it, whether it's third or ninth, it's a major problem.
- 03
Standardized protocols can nearly eliminate certain harms.
In 2006 Peter Pronovost's ICU checklist for central lines covered full barrier precautions, avoiding the femoral vein and similar steps. Spread across dozens of hospitals, it cut median central-line infections from roughly 3–5% to just under 0.5%. Makary notes this happened fast, compared with the usual 17-year lag between evidence and practice. Ultrasound-guided placement later made line insertion safer still.
- 04
Payment and checklists changed hospital behavior.
In 2008 Medicare stopped paying for 'never events' such as retained sponges or instruments; until then hospitals were paid for the second operation. Other insurers followed. In 2009 a surgical safety checklist inspired by the Apgar score, which Makary helped study, was shown to cut adverse events. It now hangs in most operating rooms worldwide.
- 05
Errors are common, and most doctors have made one.
A 2014 Mayo Clinic survey of 6,500 doctors found that 10.5% reported a major medical error in the previous three months. Makary calls over-prescribing opioids a form of medical error and says he 'gave opioids out like candy.' He cites more than 100,000 recent opioid deaths in 12 months, though most now involve fentanyl rather than prescriptions. Sending a narcotic-naive patient home with 30 pills, when best practice is 10 or fewer, is an error Hopkins only recently began measuring.
- 06
Honesty, more than error itself, drives malpractice claims.
Makary says people are hungry for honesty and remarkably forgiving when doctors are candid. Alert fatigue in electronic records (overriding five or six warnings for one order) and the loss of familiar paper charts create new failure modes.
- 07
The RaDonda Vaught prosecution undid decades of 'just culture.'
On Christmas Eve 2017, Vaught, a 36-year-old Vanderbilt nurse hired in 2015, was taking 75-year-old Charlene Murphy, who was recovering from a subdural hematoma and nearly ready to go home, for a final scan. She typed 'VE' into an automated cabinet meant to dispense Versed. Vecuronium, a powerful paralytic, came up, and she overrode an alert. Nurses there said overriding alerts was routine. Murphy died. Makary says Vanderbilt listed the death as the brain bleed, didn't report it to state officials or CMS as required, and settled with the family under a gag. It became public through a Medicare report about a year later.
- 08
A criminal conviction for an honest mistake chills error reporting.
Vaught was arrested in February 2019 for reckless homicide and abuse of an impaired adult. In March 2022 she was convicted of criminally negligent homicide and impaired-adult abuse, with prosecutors citing 10 mistakes in a 'Swiss cheese' failure. She received three years' probation with judicial diversion, meaning her record can be expunged. Makary says her arrest 'undid 23 years' of the just-culture doctrine, which treats honest mistakes as system problems and reserves punishment for reckless or malicious acts.
EXAMPLES
- 01
1,000 times the Ativan
During training, Attia saw a physician order 1 gram of Ativan instead of 1 mg for a patient who couldn't sleep. Typical doses run about 0.5–2 mg. The nurse, the pharmacy and the pharmacist all passed it along. The pharmacist even sent 20–30 mg while promising the remaining 970 mg later, and the nurse gave it, a textbook stack of failures.
- 02
A transplant without a cross-match
In a heart transplant case, the donor match wasn't verified. An OR nurse sensed something was wrong but didn't speak up. The heart failed, a second heart was given and the young patient still died, which Attia notes cost two other people the hearts. The case helped make speaking up in the OR a hard science.
- 03
The wrong-patient CT
Makary once had a CT done on the wrong patient with a similar name. The patient was already angry about a pancreatic leak. Makary apologized and told him exactly what happened; the man never sued, and they remain friends.
- 04
Aviation as the benchmark
Apart from the 2009 Buffalo crash that killed about 50 people and a 2018 death after a passenger was partially pulled through a window, US airlines carried about 6 billion passengers from 2009 to 2018 without a fatality.
- 05
'I am RaDonda'
Hundreds of nurses rallied outside her trial with signs. Every doctor and nurse Makary spoke with said, in effect, 'that could have been me.' The Tennessee Department of Health also refused to postpone its licensing hearing until after the criminal trial.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Advocate in the hospital.
Ask what each medication is and why. Hopkins now asks nurses to explain every drug. Call patient relations, available 24/7, if you see a concern or error.
- 02
Ask about alternatives and question opioid quantities.
Most minor procedures shouldn't send a narcotic-naive adult home with more than about 10 pills.
- 03
Speak up, and make it safe for others to.
Makary warns that if you mock a nurse once for raising a concern, they may never raise one again.
- 04
Push for systemic fixes.
Makary's priorities for halving error deaths include payment reform that rewards safety, adopting tools like second-read software for imaging, and research funding for patient safety, which he calls a blind spot.