#42–Avrum Bluming, M.D. and Carol Tavris, Ph.D.: A compelling case for hormone replacement therapy

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Avrum Bluming & Carol Tavris
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8 Jan 2020
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KEYPOINTS

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    Estrogen Matters argues that women have been wrongly denied HRT

    Oncologist Avrum Bluming and social psychologist Carol Tavris wrote Estrogen Matters, building on their 2009 review. They argue that the belief that estrogen causes breast cancer has kept women off hormone replacement therapy for about 30 years, especially since 2002. Attia frames the episode as a story of bad science rather than a blanket endorsement. Not every woman needs HRT, and the clinical task is identifying who benefits most and for whom the risks outweigh the benefits.

  • 02

    Uterine cancer scare, then the fix

    Premarin (named for pregnant mare urine) was cheap to make and remains the dominant US estrogen. In the early 1970s, estrogen alone was found to raise uterine cancer risk up to about fivefold, and prescriptions fell sharply. By the late 1970s, adding a progestogen, cyclically or continuously, was shown to cancel that risk, and use climbed again. A 1991 NEJM article by Goldman and Tosteson said it was 'time for action, not debate'.

  • 03

    The Women's Health Initiative enrolled the wrong population

    About 16 million US women, roughly 22% of those of eligible age, used HRT in 2002. WHI participants averaged 63, about a decade past menopause. Around 70% were overweight or obese, and many smoked or had hypertension. Older women were chosen so heart events would show up sooner and cost less. Women with significant hot flashes were excluded for fear they would drop out of the placebo arm. Yet the results were 'immediately extrapolated to all women everywhere'.

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    The breast-cancer finding was small and not significant

    The reported 26% relative increase (hazard ratio about 1.26, later 1.24) 'almost reached nominal statistical significance'. In absolute terms, Bluming calculates it as about 0.9 extra cases per 1,000 women, under 1%. By 2006 a follow-up reported that the increased risk in that population had disappeared. Bluming and Tavris also note the WHI's leader had published 'time to bring the HRT bandwagon to a halt' beforehand. Tavris calls it confirmation bias, not a conspiracy.

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    A 50–70% collapse in HRT use followed

    By 2004, use had fallen from 22% to about 10%. Bluming and Tavris cite one estimate that about 50,000 women died prematurely of heart disease after stopping HRT in the years after 2002. That figure is a modelled estimate and is contested.

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    The heart-disease window matters

    Women who start within about 10 years of menopause, without existing cardiovascular disease, are a very different group from the WHI's 63-year-olds with existing risk factors. Attia's example is a healthy 60-year-old who went through menopause at 50 and has no evidence of heart disease.

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    Bones, brain and colon

    Bluming says estrogen can reduce hip fracture risk by up to 50%, better than any long-term alternative. About 21% of women who fracture a hip die within a year, roughly 40,000 a year, similar to US breast-cancer deaths. Studies, including the Nurses' Health Study, show about 20–25% less colon cancer. He says estrogen may cut Alzheimer's incidence by 20–50% depending on the study. The authors say animal, lab, field and randomised studies all point the same way on cognition.

  • 08

    Breast-cancer survivors are a contested group

    Bluming points to his own small 14-year study, which reported results yearly and fit alongside 14 others in showing no increased local recurrence, contralateral cancer or distant recurrence in survivors who took hormones. He notes that as early as 1944 researchers reported about a 25% response rate treating breast cancer with high-dose estrogen. He also notes progesterone did slightly better than tamoxifen in an early 1970s randomised trial. His position remains contested.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    Heart disease dwarfs breast cancer as a cause of death

    Attia walks through a chart of women from age 25 onward. In every age band, a woman is more likely to die of heart disease than breast cancer over the next 10 years, from about 2–3.5 times at younger ages to about 8 times at 70 and over 12 times later.

  • 02

    Attia's early-menopause patient

    In August 2017, a patient had normal day-5 labs (FSH about 10, estradiol about 90) despite starting symptoms. Months later her FSH was 68 and estradiol unmeasurable. Attia rechecked, then consulted his mentor, gynaecologist Riley Lloyd. The case showed him how abruptly hormones can fall.

  • 03

    Relative risks in context

    From the 2009 paper, Attia reads out associations: fish intake linked to a 14% higher breast-cancer risk, and one extra weekly serving of French fries to 27%. These are comparable to the WHI's hormone signal, which nobody acts on.

  • 04

    The 2003 drop in breast cancer

    WHI investigators linked a 2003 fall in breast-cancer incidence to women stopping HRT. Bluming disputes the link and says the decline had begun in 1999, before the WHI was published.

  • 05

    Women told to stop at 78

    Bluming gets letters from former patients in their 70s and 80s, doing well on hormones, whose doctors won't renew prescriptions. Hot flashes last about seven years on average, but 10–15 for some.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Ask about absolute, not relative, risk

    A '25% increase' may mean less than one extra case per 1,000 women. Ask your doctor for the absolute numbers for someone of your age and health.

  • 02

    Timing and individual profile matter

    Starting near menopause in a woman without cardiovascular disease differs from starting at 63 with risk factors. Decide with a clinician who knows the data, and weigh symptoms, bone, heart and family history.

  • 03

    Randomised doesn't mean right

    A randomised trial in the wrong population, or with the wrong formulation, can mislead. Weigh it alongside consistent observational and mechanistic evidence. The conversation keeps the claim tied to named mechanisms, numbers, and caveats so a listener can act or ask better questions without flattening the nuance.

  • 04

    Don't stop prescriptions on age alone

    Bluming argues that women benefiting from HRT shouldn't be cut off simply for turning 65 or 75. This remains debated, so review it individually.