#103 – Looking back on the first 99 episodes: Strong Convictions, Loosely Held
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KEYPOINTS
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'Strong convictions, loosely held' means trying to shoot down your own hypotheses
For episode 100, Bob Kaplan interviews Attia about which of his views have changed since the podcast began in mid-2018. Kaplan quotes a blog by Richard Feinman, the SUNY biochemist (not the physicist Feynman), recounting a colleague's description of science: make a hypothesis, then try to shoot yourself down. Changing your mind is 'a feature, not a bug'.
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Attia stopped taking metformin
He had taken it since about 2011 for its possible longevity benefits, though few patients in his practice took it. In December 2018, when he started Zone 2 training and checking lactate again, his resting and low-effort lactate was surprisingly high. He concluded that metformin, a weak mitochondrial toxin, was probably blunting his mitochondrial output. He stopped, then spent months experimenting on and off it.
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Metformin's effect on training is still unclear
Studies of metformin's effects on muscle mass and training adaptation exist but seem suboptimal, because they often skip functional measures. Attia would like a large study using lactate, Zone 2 efficiency and muscle mass as proxies for whether the drug blunts the benefits of exercise in people without diabetes.
- 04
Rapamycin took him years to act on
His interest dates to about 2012, peaked with the December 2014 everolimus paper by Joan Mannick and Lloyd Klickstein, and grew through 2017 interviews with David Sabatini and Matt Kaeberlein. Unlike most drugs, rapamycin has no biomarker to show you're taking enough or too much, beyond side effects such as mouth sores. It took him about four years to settle on a dosing approach, which happened around autumn 2018.
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Zone 2 came back into his training
After he stopped time-trial cycling around late 2014 or early 2015, he dropped low-intensity aerobic work entirely, something endurance athletes get without trying, even swimmers training for short events. Now it's a central part of his week. He enjoys it because it isn't hard, and there has never been a day he didn't want to do it.
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He now sees deadlifts as hugely valuable for longevity, if done properly
Starting dynamic neuromuscular stabilisation (DNS) about 18 months earlier changed his approach. He lifts lighter than before. He's rarely had 400 lb on the trap bar in the past year, tops out around 350–375 lb, and goes much lighter for slow tempo work. He films every rep of every set and sends it to his coach, Beth Lewis. His warm-up checklist of about 10 exercises takes 10–15 minutes.
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No more baby aspirin for flights
He used to assume that aspirin's antiplatelet effect prevented deep vein thrombosis on long flights. On digging, he found little evidence that it does. The gold standard, heparin, is impractical because it has to be injected, so he found supplement alternatives such as one sold as 'Flite Tabs'.
- 08
Some generic drugs may not be equivalent
His default through medical school was that generics are identical and brand names a scam. But he has seen patients switched from Crestor to generic rosuvastatin show no change in their labs after two months, despite adherence they had no reason to lie about. Katherine Eban's episode (#71) on generic drug manufacturing shifted his view; he calls it one of the 10 most important episodes.
- 09
He would push omega-3 levels higher
Before Bill Harris's episode, Attia targeted a red-blood-cell omega-3 index of about 8–10%. Afterwards he felt 12–14% could be reached without side effects and with more benefit. He says clinical trial data on EPA and DHA are still unclear, including a setback in a recent EPA-plus-DHA trial.
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Omega-6 associations are confounded
Foods high in omega-6 polyunsaturated fat are often 'crap', which makes associations hard to interpret. He calls it a polarising topic worth a deep dive. It matters little for his own diet but has big public-health implications.
EXAMPLES
- 01
Archery as practice in stillness
At 20 yards an archer is expected to hit something the size of a quarter. A perfect round is 60 shots in the X ring. He uses a shot trainer for 20–40 practice draws a day in hotel rooms.
- 02
A 1.44 GPA
Attia admits to a 1.44 high-school GPA while focused on sport. He contrasts it with his daughter's new self-driven studying.
- 03
Getting a dog
After years of resisting, the family got a dog. A month in, it was far more work than expected, mostly for his wife and daughter.
- 04
Learning to say no
He used to say yes to everything. Inspired partly by Jason Fried and Ric Elias, he's much better at declining, while avoiding the opposite extreme. He notes that Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett keep almost empty schedules.
- 05
Reluctant podcaster
When the idea was first floated in about 2014, he called it the worst idea he'd ever heard, fearing the workload and that he'd run out of guests after 50 episodes.
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Books
He has reread Ryan Holiday's 'Stillness Is the Key' three times and recommends Siddhartha Mukherjee's 'The Emperor of All Maladies' and 'The Laws of Medicine'. He jokes that when you're writing a book, reading great ones makes you want to quit writing yours.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Re-test your convictions
Look for the data that would prove you wrong, as he did with metformin. The conversation keeps the claim tied to named mechanisms, numbers, and caveats so a listener can act or ask better questions without flattening the nuance.
- 02
Check that a drug is working
With measurable drugs like statins, recheck labs. If nothing changes, suspect the formulation, not just adherence.
- 03
Don't assume aspirin protects you on flights
The evidence for aspirin preventing flight-related DVT is weak. Discuss real risk factors with a doctor.
- 04
Practise technique deliberately
Film your lifts, use a warm-up checklist and favour quality over load. The conversation keeps the claim tied to named mechanisms, numbers, and caveats so a listener can act or ask better questions without flattening the nuance.