#94 – Mark Hyman, M.D.: The impact of the food system on our health and the environment

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Mark Hyman
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~5 min
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8 Jul 2020
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1:50:28
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KEYPOINTS

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    Hyman frames ultra-processed food as a health, economic and climate problem at once

    Hyman, a functional medicine physician, cites 11 million deaths a year worldwide from eating too much ultra-processed food and too little good food. He says 70% of US military recruits are rejected as unfit. He also cites a UN projection of 200 million to a billion climate refugees within the coming decades. In his view the food system connects chronic disease, healthcare costs, national security and the environment.

  • 02

    Calories aren't biologically equivalent, he argues

    Hyman's example: 750 calories of soda is a Big Gulp holding 46 teaspoons of sugar, while 750 calories of broccoli is 21 cups with 35 grams of fiber and no sugar. He says ultra-processed food now makes up about 60% of American calories, and that each additional 10% of calories from it raises death risk by 14%, as he reports the data. Peter adds that processed foods may hijack the body's normal appetite feedback loop.

  • 03

    He says the food industry funds confusion

    Hyman cites about $12 billion spent by the food industry on nutrition 'research.' He describes how Coca-Cola executive Rhona Applebaum set up the Global Energy Balance Network. He says it paid scientists including James Hill, with about $20 million in funding, to push 'all calories are the same' and 'exercise more, eat less.'

  • 04

    Gut health sits at the center of his model of inflammation

    Hyman says low-fiber, high-sugar diets feed harmful microbes, damage the gut lining ('leaky gut') and let food antigens trigger inflammation, noting that about 60% of the immune system is in the gut. He cites rodent experiments in which transferring stool from lean to obese animals changed their weight. He adds that stress alone can increase gut permeability.

  • 05

    US health statistics he calls staggering

    Hyman says 6 in 10 Americans have a chronic disease and 4 in 10 have two or more. One in two has prediabetes or type 2 diabetes, about 75% are overweight, and most states are near 40% obesity, whereas no state had 20% when he finished medical school. He says 80% of the world's type 2 diabetics now live in developing countries, and some ethnic groups face higher risk at lower body weights.

  • 06

    Policy works, and the tobacco playbook is being reused

    Hyman points to Chile, where a senator who was also a doctor pushed through warning labels on unhealthy foods, marketing limits and a soda tax. He says marketing restrictions and labels had about four times the impact of the tax. Peter recalls that requiring anti-smoking ads alongside cigarette ads led tobacco companies to pull their TV ads. US adult smoking fell from about 50–55% in the mid-1960s to about 18%.

  • 07

    Fertilizer and tillage degrade soil, Hyman argues

    Hyman says global fertilizer use is 400 billion pounds, sevenfold higher than 40 years ago yet two-thirds as effective. It is made from fracked natural gas, emits nitrous oxide, which he calls about 300 times more potent than CO2, and runs off into roughly 400 ocean dead zones, including one the size of New Jersey in the Gulf of Mexico. He claims a third to 40% of excess atmospheric carbon comes from lost soil.

  • 08

    Regenerative agriculture is his proposed fix

    Regenerative farming means cover crops, rotation, minimal tillage and animals or legumes for nitrogen. He says it rebuilds organic matter, holds water and can match yields. Peter notes that US corn yields were flat at about 20 bushels per acre from the Civil War to World War II, then climbed to about 200 before GMOs arrived. GMOs, added perhaps about 10% more, a figure Peter says may be debatable.

  • 09

    Glyphosate: Hyman is alarmed and Peter isn't convinced

    Hyman says glyphosate is 70% of agrochemicals used, weeds are becoming resistant, there are about 14,000 lawsuits, and animal studies show microbiome and epigenetic effects. He says his own urine glyphosate was at the 50th percentile on a Great Plains Lab test. Peter eats similarly but says he is far less confident that glyphosate causes human disease than that tobacco causes lung cancer, because the data haven't convinced him.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    Gabe Brown's North Dakota farm

    Hyman says this farmer, battered by hail and bad weather and close to bankruptcy, switched his roughly 5,000 acres to regenerative methods and says he has built 29 inches of soil. He uses no chemical inputs and is profitable, while the average farmer loses money and relies on subsidies.

  • 02

    Impossible Burger versus regenerative beef

    Hyman cites a Quantis life-cycle analysis: the Impossible Burger beat a factory-farm burger but still added about 3.5 kg of carbon per burger. A regeneratively raised beef burger removed carbon on net. He objects to scaling GMO soy monocrops sprayed with glyphosate.

  • 03

    SNAP and soda

    Hyman says food stamps can buy a two-liter soda but not a rotisserie chicken. By his estimate, 75% of SNAP purchases are junk food or soda. That includes about $7 billion a year, roughly 30 billion servings, on soda alone, in a $75-billion-a-year program feeding 46 million Americans. He says this contradicts the Dietary Guidelines.

  • 04

    Why bread feels different in Europe

    Peter noticed European bread and pasta didn't affect him the same way. Hyman's reasons include modern dwarf wheat bred under Norman Borlaug, which he says is more disruptive to the gut, and pre-harvest glyphosate spraying of non-GMO wheat. He suggests heirloom grains like einkorn as an alternative.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Hyman's 'Five R's' for gut repair

    Remove triggers (gluten, dairy or grains for some people; parasites; yeast overgrowth); replace missing fiber, prebiotics and enzymes; reinoculate with probiotics, which he admits is 'still sort of a Wild West'; repair with nutrients like glutamine, vitamin A, fish oil, butyrate and polyphenols; and rebalance stress and lifestyle.

  • 02

    Buy organic where it matters most

    Organic certification bans synthetic pesticides, hormones and antibiotics but allows 'industrial organic' monocrops. Use contamination lists to prioritize organic strawberries and celery and save on bananas and avocados. A regenerative organic certification has been proposed.

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    Hyman's top three changes if he were 'food czar'

    Pay for food as medicine, including produce prescriptions and healthy government food purchasing. Reform SNAP, school lunches and the Dietary Guidelines. Back regenerative agriculture with policy and investment.