249 ‒ How the brain works, Andrew’s fascinating backstory, improving scientific literacy, and more

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Andrew Huberman
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3 Apr 2023
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KEYPOINTS

  • 01

    Adrenaline briefly takes the forebrain offline, and getting familiar with that state makes you less likely to be hijacked by it.

    Huberman says that after a jolt of adrenaline (an ice bath, a car crash, a troubling text), the forebrain quiets for about 20–30 seconds. Meanwhile heart rate and breathing rise, pupils dilate and vision tunnels. Glucose and lactate are shunted toward survival centers. The more often you practice these states, through deliberate cold or blood-flow-restriction training, the more you learn they pass. He frames this as stress inoculation.

  • 02

    Lactate is a fuel, not a poison.

    After putting Huberman through blood-flow-restriction cycling, Attia explains that repeated lactate exposure leads cells to make more MCT transporters, so they clear and use lactate more efficiently. The liver can also turn it back into glucose. Huberman adds that the hypothalamus and brainstem areas that control breathing appear to prefer lactate under high exertion or stress. BFR's appeal: growth hormone and metabolic stress with little soreness, but only with proper cuffs, not homemade tourniquets.

  • 03

    The prefrontal cortex sets rules by context, and stress shrinks those rules.

    Huberman uses the Stroop task (name the ink color, not the word) to show how the PFC switches rules. Under even mild stress, he says, everyone fails at novel rule-switching, 'Seal Team Six guy' or not. People fall back on what they've practiced. When calm, they can draw on far wider rule sets, which he links to creativity.

  • 04

    Mood circuits run 'north to south' in health and 'south to north' in distress.

    Huberman cites Nolan Williams's work, not his own. In calm, healthy states the prefrontal cortex drives the insula and amygdala from the top down. In depression, activity in the left dorsolateral PFC is weak, so thinking is driven bottom-up from the insula and amygdala. Williams's lab uses TMS to activate that region, and new ideas seem to emerge, partly by temporarily dampening interoception. The insula holds a map of the internal body and merges outside information, rules and internal state.

  • 05

    The amygdala isn't the only seat of fear.

    People or monkeys with damage to both amygdalae still panic when made to breathe CO2. Yet they lose learned fears such as snakes and behave inappropriately with food and sex, for example tasting a pen.

  • 06

    Humans are visual animals, but other animals see better in specific ways.

    About 40–42% of the human brain responds to visual input. With good vision, people resolve about 60 cycles per degree, meaning 60 black lines on a thumbnail at arm's length. A red-tailed hawk resolves about 120, enough to spot a gopher lift its head from a light pole. Huberman says color vision evolved late: dogs see roughly brown-red-orange tones, while a mantis shrimp distinguishes far more shades of red than we can.

  • 07

    Belief changes physiology, not just how things feel.

    Huberman describes Alia Crum's research, which separates mindset effects from placebo. Drinking the same milkshake labeled low- or high-calorie produced different hormonal and satiety responses. Hotel housekeepers told their work burns calories and lowers blood pressure lost about 8–11 pounds over three or four weeks. People told about stress's performance-enhancing effects responded differently from those told its harms. He relays her estimate that belief accounts for roughly 8–20% of the effects of things like a food or behavior.

  • 08

    Teaching mechanisms changes people more than listing facts.

    Huberman says 50 brain facts don't change anyone, but explaining the process behind a few daily experiences, like fatigue and stress, makes the tools stick. He warns against promising 'works the first time, every time' unless it truly does, such as morning sunlight viewing working within two or three days. Both agree the world would benefit more from freshman statistics and probability, especially standard deviation, than from calculus.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    From truancy to residential treatment

    Huberman grew up near Stanford. His father, an Argentine physicist, worked at Xerox PARC. After his parents' high-conflict split around age 12–13, he fell into the underground skateboarding scene and stopped going to school. The school system placed him in a residential treatment program for truancy, not drugs or violence. He says it 'wasn't jail but it wasn't far off.' The conditions for release were a new high school and therapy.

  • 02

    A therapist for more than 30 years

    His therapist, trained mainly in psychoanalysis, was the first person who really paid attention to him. He still sees that person one to three times a week, and in graduate school he sometimes needed budget help to keep going.

  • 03

    Ben Barres's lab

    Huberman did his postdoc from 2005 to 2010 in Ben Barres's 32-person Stanford lab, which held four-hour lab meetings. Barres, who had taught Attia neuroscience in medical school, transitioned during Attia's year and had a mild face-recognition deficit. To pay Bay Area rent on a roughly $45k salary, Huberman wrote for Thrasher and Slap under a pen name, earning an extra $500–$1,000 a month.

  • 04

    Losses that destabilized him

    A close colleague with BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutations died of early-onset breast cancer. He says it felt like losing his mother. Barres died of pancreatic cancer in 2017. Huberman reacted by working twice as hard and taking risks again, including cage diving with great white sharks, and felt joyless despite tenure and a 2018 Nature paper.

  • 05

    Hoffman, a SEAL and a seed question

    In 2017 he did the week-long Hoffman Process (he notes it costs about $4–5k, with scholarships) and met Pat Dossett, who served 13 years in the SEAL Teams. Around the start of 2019 Dossett asked, 'What are you gonna do for the world?' That led to Instagram clips, about 30 podcast guest appearances in 2020 including Rogan and Lex Fridman, and the launch of the Huberman Lab podcast in 2021.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Practice controlled stress.

    Short, deliberate cold or hard intervals let you rehearse the adrenaline window and learn that it ends.

  • 02

    Do novel or creative work when calm.

    Rule-switching collapses under stress, so protect relaxed time for hard thinking.

  • 03

    Frame your activity accurately and positively.

    Mindset effects are real but limited; true beliefs about the benefits of exercise and stress may add to the physiological effects.

  • 04

    Learn statistics.

    Understanding probability and standard deviation protects you from confusing health messaging.

  • 05

    Seek sustained help.

    Huberman credits long-term therapy and deliberate inner work, not willpower alone, with turning his life around.