234 ‒ Chris Hemsworth on Limitless, longevity, and happiness
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- Chris Hemsworth
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- ~4 min
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- 12 Dec 2022
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KEYPOINTS
- 01
Limitless grew into something more personal than planned.
Darren Aronofsky called Hemsworth about a six-episode docuseries on longevity. The core team met in New York around November 2019, and shooting began in January. Hemsworth had never hosted anything and worried about seeming genuine. Attia, the show's medical adviser, saw him give more of himself as trust grew. Hemsworth says the risks felt safer once he believed he wouldn't be exploited.
- 02
A 3–4-day fast is a 'reboot,' but expect to feel rough.
Attia explains why the fast was four days: three to four days is roughly the point at which the body meaningfully changes how it handles the absence of nutrients. He normally wouldn't take a patient past three days, but production pushed it to four. Hemsworth also worked out daily and learned breath-holding and spearfishing while fasting. Attia warned there would be stretches of sluggish, grouchy mood.
- 03
Ocean cold is a different stress from an ice bath.
In Norway the water was about 36°F. Their first swim lasted about four and a half minutes, longer than any ice bath Hemsworth had done, in snow and wind and while treading water, which removes the thin warm layer that forms around a still body in a tub. He says it was more a grit test than adaptation, and he relied on coach Ross Edgley's voice. For comparison, Attia has done long swims at about 49°F and calls even that a huge difference.
- 04
Joy comes from contrast.
Attia describes the post-swim euphoria as a 'temporal juxtaposition' of being very low and then very high. We don't feel speed, only acceleration, and he argues emotions work the same way: constant bliss wouldn't feel like profound joy. Hemsworth still makes time for 30–60 seconds of cold water even on busy days.
- 05
Lift heavy, start early, never stop.
Hemsworth seems genetically inclined to be muscular and explosive; he says he grew quickly once he started training while playing footy at 17. Attia tells patients that heavy loads recruit fast-twitch (type 2) fibers, which decline with age. The strength episode moved from dragging a car (Edgley had done a similar feat for about 20 hours) to a 100-ft rope climb from a cable car about 1,000 ft above the Blue Mountains, a better test of grip, strength and top-end fitness. Edgley's advice: be strong, not heavy.
- 06
APOE4/E4 raises Alzheimer's risk sharply but isn't destiny.
Blood work from December 2019 showed Hemsworth carries two copies of APOE4. Attia puts the risk at roughly 8–10 times the general population. Only about 1% of people carry two copies, and about 20–25% carry at least one. Attia had seen only about three such patients, and two suspected it from family history. He told Hemsworth the gene is not deterministic, that earlier action means more risk reduction, and that it could be 'a blessing' as motivation. Attia calls the view that nothing can be done 'complete nonsense.'
- 07
Sauna is a passive cardiovascular stressor with consistent, though not fully proven, data.
In a sauna at about 195°F, Hemsworth's pulse started around 64 bpm. Attia explains that the heart pumps harder to move blood to the skin for cooling, much like exercise. He notes the studies point strongly in the same direction even if the case isn't proven like some interventions. Hemsworth and his wife Elsa have a sauna and ice bath at home, which he calls the best recovery tool.
- 08
Labeling arousal as excitement changes performance.
Hemsworth used to feel like throwing up before auditions and could barely think on set. He read about research in which performers had the same physical arousal (raised pulse, clammy hands, shortness of breath) whether they called it fear or excitement. He decided the feeling meant 'Spidey senses up.' He believes fear pushes and purpose pulls, and both are needed. Fear, he says, keeps him self-deprecating and humble.
EXAMPLES
- 01
Climbing the rope
Hemsworth had never climbed a rope. He trained on a 10-ft rope at home, repeatedly going three-quarters of the way up and jumping off. For about two and a half weeks he stopped lifting and cut calories, dropping a couple of kilos. The real rope, three to four times longer than anything he'd trained on, took about a couple of minutes. His quads, especially his right leg, burned worse than his forearms, and afterward his fingers were locked into claws.
- 02
Imagining his death
In the final episode, palliative-care physician BJ Miller had him live as an octogenarian for three days and picture his last moment. His mother had recently told him that, when she thought she was dying, she felt only gratitude. He realized he wasn't ready, and that the scene he pictured, family and friends in his living room, happens every other weekend.
- 03
Getting Thor
He auditioned for Thor and got no callback, while his younger brother Liam made the final six. Joss Whedon and Drew Goddard, who were working with him on Cabin in the Woods, were baffled. Casting reopened and he auditioned again for Kenneth Branagh, this time without putting anyone on a pedestal or trying to please, and won the part.
- 04
Rush
Ron Howard thought he wouldn't fit in a Formula 1 car. Hemsworth studied interviews with James Hunt, styled his hair like Hunt's, practiced the accent and won the role. Attia jokes that he has watched it so many times Hemsworth should be paid per viewing. Hemsworth hasn't watched it since the premiere.
OTHER RELEVANT
- 01
Learn your APOE genotype.
Attia wishes everyone knew it early, because it shapes prevention around exercise, sleep, metabolic health and more.
- 02
Use contrast and discomfort deliberately.
Short cold exposures, hard climbs and fasting can build resilience. Long fasts beyond about three days deserve medical oversight.
- 03
Relabel pre-performance nerves.
Treat a racing heart as readiness, not threat.
- 04
Curate your work.
Hemsworth wants more time to prepare and decompress between films, working with directors such as George Miller who stretch him, rather than taking roles just for the paycheck.
- 05
Notice what you already have.
The meaningful moments may already be here; change your attention, not just your circumstances.