241 ‒ Living intentionally, valuing time, prioritizing relationships, & more keys to a rich life

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Ric Elias
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6 Feb 2023
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KEYPOINTS

  • 01

    Parenting teenagers is a tug of war you must eventually lose

    Ric Elias says this was the last meaningful lesson from his mother, given over coffee while she had Alzheimer's and he was asking for advice about his teenage daughter. You can't drop the rope right away, but by the time children leave for college they should have pulled you over the line. His version: they will always be your kids, but you won't always be their parent.

  • 02

    Memories made with people you love are what a year leaves behind

    When Ric looks back over a year, what he actually remembers is time spent with people. So he started creating those experiences on purpose. One was a 'friends summit': about 30 friends, each personally chosen by him, who arrived open-minded because the only thing they had in common was knowing Ric. Peter, who attended, says he left with a list of men he couldn't wait to see again.

  • 03

    People who finish life well keep looking forward

    Ric has studied people in their 70s, 80s and 90s who are thriving. The common thread is that they keep planning and building instead of retreating into the past. Staying 'in the arena', even at a slower pace, keeps the mind engaged and keeps them feeling relevant. He connects this with Arthur Brooks's idea that crystallized intelligence takes over as fluid intelligence declines, so older people stay productive by teaching and advising.

  • 04

    Live with complete intention, and count your time

    Since Flight 1549, Ric has tried to live with full intention. He knows, for example, that he has 242 weeks left until he turns 60. Each week he sets his big intentions, because he expects lower energy and some physical debts to come due after 60. He says this way of living is what makes his life feel rich.

  • 05

    The most important relationship is with yourself

    Ric calls this his biggest growth since the plane. If that relationship is wrong, every other one carries friction. He argues that most religions and much of society use guilt to teach or control us, and that guilt is 'the most useless emotion'. He has spent five years getting rid of it. The alternative is to own mistakes quickly. When he snaps at someone, he apologises within about 20–30 minutes and asks for forgiveness, rather than carrying the guilt around.

  • 06

    Happiness and wealth are only as linked as you decide

    Ric points out that some of the happiest people in the world have no wealth, so the two can't be tied together. But many people chase wealth for their whole lives because society tells them to, then arrive feeling empty and guilty about what they sacrificed. He calls that the worst place to be: getting what you wanted and finding it was a mirage.

  • 07

    Play the infinite game

    At the friends summit, Simon Sinek spoke about finite and infinite games. Ric says the book put into words what he already believed: in an infinite game there is no winning, and the goal is to stay in the game and ultimately keep it going. After the plane, he decided to 'run a different race' than everyone else. He says he feels no jealousy and rarely reads comments about himself.

  • 08

    Struggle builds greatness, and that is hard on privileged children

    Peter recalls an old interview in which a young Arnold Schwarzenegger said his drive came from hardship and a need to escape. Ric agrees and adds that perfect 4.0 students who never faced adversity often struggle to be productive later. He notes that his generation came from little while their children come from plenty.

  • 09

    The twenties are an apprenticeship that remote work may erode

    Ric thinks something special about the US is that companies, hospitals and other employers spend the decade from 20 to 30 training people for the rest of their lives. He loves the flexibility of hybrid work and doesn't want to lose it. But he worries that if young people no longer learn alongside experienced colleagues, the country could lose much of its edge in 10–30 years.

EXAMPLES

  • 01

    Flight 1549 and the last seconds

    Ric was on the US Airways plane that landed on the Hudson in January 2009. He has said that if he had died, he would have felt only sadness rather than gratitude. Peter asks whether he has asked other passengers what they thought in the final seconds. He hasn't yet, but plans to.

  • 02

    Marshall at 96

    Ric has known Marshall, a former North Carolina state senator of 26 years who played basketball at Duke around 1939 and served in World War II, for about 20 years and over roughly 100 lunches. At 96, Marshall brought Ric a serious business idea based on where trends would be in 10 years. Peter compares this to his 85-year-old father, who in his 60s bought undeveloped limestone land expecting demand over the next 30 years and still works at a quarry every day.

  • 03

    Red Ventures and the Giving Pledge

    Red Ventures has grown from about 1,200 employees around 2014–15 to about 4,500. Ric expects that by 80 he'll have about 15 people and will be giving the money away. About 18 months before the interview he signed the Giving Pledge, which commits signers to give at least half their wealth away during their lifetime or at death. He says he and his wife did this with real trepidation while their children were still in high school.

  • 04

    Golden Door Scholars and Road to Hire

    Golden Door Scholars funds college for undocumented students who can't get in-state tuition. Ric says about 80,000 such students graduate from high school each year and can no longer obtain DACA permits. The latest round had about 1,200 applicants, more than 300 of them with GPAs close to 4.0, and about 520 students are in the programme. A sister programme, Road to Hire, teaches mostly Black and brown students from Title I schools to code through paid apprenticeships; more than 220 graduated this year, all with jobs.

  • 05

    A learning list to stay humble

    Ric works out with a coach twice a week and keeps a list of eight or nine things he wants to learn. One is salsa: as a Puerto Rican, he says he can't die without knowing how to dance it.

OTHER RELEVANT

  • 01

    Plan the year around shared experiences

    Deliberately create gatherings and trips with people you love. Those are the memories that remain.

  • 02

    Count the weeks to your next milestone

    Pick a horizon, work out how many weeks remain, and set a few clear intentions each week so time is spent on purpose.

  • 03

    Replace guilt with a fast apology

    When you've wronged someone, own it quickly and ask forgiveness instead of carrying guilt.

  • 04

    Keep a beginner's list

    Choose a handful of skills you're bad at and practise them. It keeps you looking forward and keeps you humble.